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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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I agree does not sound like battery to me. I hate to say it, but I would take it to to Infiniti for diagnosis.
I felt the same and still feel I need to get it diagnosed, but the way the car sounded like it started sounded like it possibly could be a battery problem. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I don't want to go fork over a bunch of money just yet.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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I don't know how the person you talked to came to the conclusion that it's probably the starter without diagnosing it. I had an issue with my car starting up and voltage was normal. Turns out it was the battery. GL with the problem, hopefully it doesn't take too much of a toll on your pockets.
this, why i found it sketchy that the person made an assumption like he knew for sure.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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this, why i found it sketchy that the person made an assumption like he knew for sure.
he might have made the assumption due to me stating that when I turned the key, the only thing that came on was the battery. I said it didn't even try and turn over. But now that the car is home and my girl has restarted it, its turning over the times she started it on the phone with me, definitely could be a close to dead battery. I'm hoping thats all it is.

The Infiniti in Elk Grove is ok, not the greatest. Went in for an oil change, and they tried to get me for tires, brakes, and rotors. I was like no I just want my oil changed. Got there at 9:00 am and left at 1:15pm. I mean the wash, vaccum and free wax they gave me was nice, but there was only one car ahead of me.
I think he just wants me to tow it there, or if I can start it, get it there so he can charge the diagnostic no matter whats wrong with it. Snakes I tell ya, snakes!
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 05:58 PM
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But anyone catch where he started the car fine like 4 times?
i did and it sounds like a battery to me.

he started the car 4 times pretty much within a SMALL window. Once the car is started 12.45v goes to about 14.1v and it will slowly go down but not within 5 minutes. He did state that he got home and time past by and then didn't start. Battery could be either drained or not holding the charge.

You can charge the battery by the alternator. That is what its FOR... STARTING AND CHARGING SYSTEM.... yea its faster and better to pull the battery and charge it overnight with an real battery charger but that is what alternator's job is.

When i jump start cars with dead batteries i normally tell people not to turn off their cars for an hour and let the battery charge up. If its not a completely dead battery then it works 90% of the time.


OP, just jump start you car now. if it starts then most likely you need a battery or you can try to charge your old one. If you cant afford repairs for a car then you shouldn't be driving a car. some people are get the short end of the stick a lot with problems after they spent $1000's on the car but thats how it is.

I never had to use a gel cell battery but i would say just get a normal one for sub $100. cheapest Gel like the optima run for like $175 locally. Sears/walmart batteries run $75 and come with like 3-5 year warranty. Its a no questions asked type of warranty, bring it in, they test battery fails you get new one and on your way. Most original batteries last about 5-7 years if lucky so you might be on your original battery and its time to change it. I just did on my 05 a couple months ago as normal maintenance i dont want to be left STUCK.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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But he suspected the battery to be dead. Tried it and nothing. Unplugged something and it started right up. After sitting at the movies with the lights on.

When you start the car, it draws alot of amps. Just because it starts and the alternator is charging at 14.4 or so volts, doesn't mean it replenishes the battery for the energy it took to start it in the few seconds it was started. So start/stop/start/stop is a net negative energy deal.

I hope it's a bad battery but I don't think it is or else it wouldn't have started in the beginning.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 02:22 AM
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Well its definitely not the battery. Took the battery out and took it to auto zone and the battery is still good, my buddy said pretty much brand new. I'm stumped now, I don't want to take it into Infiniti just yet though, anyone on here close to Sacramento, or know anyone close to Sacramento, willing to come help me out. Please if anyone can help PM me or write me back on here.

Definitely a frustrating experience. The cost is not the thing that worries me Turtle. The thing I don't want is Infiniti charging me out the **** for figuring out what is wrong with the car, especially if its something that I am just overlooking. This is why I ask for help.

HELLLLLPPPPPPPPPP!
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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well if you dont want infiniti to charge you up the butt then dont take it to them plain and simple.

a g35 is not that hard to work on and anyone who is a mechanic should be able to help you.

Has the car started since you gotten home. Sounds to me there are only a FEW items that can be wrong and its just a process of elimination. I highly doubt its wiring related.

If the car doesn't start you can eliminate the alternator right off the bat. you have the key/ignition switch giving power from the battery to the starter to start the car.

I dont remember what you said happens when you turn the key now that its at your house.... this board can most likely help you if you take your time and tell us the direct info and not what you and your buddies "THINK", i'm not trying to say your or you buddy is wrong its just there is a trouble shooting steps to follow and if you automaticlly rule out something that you THINK is good then you might be doing more work then you should...

Me personally right now, rather then take the battery out, i would of got a second car and jumper cables and hooked it up, with the other car running i would try to crank it.

I had a issue with my maxima where my battery cable was loose, i didn't notice it, car didn't start nor responded, i tested battery on the car with my volt meter and it was good. but it didn't respond and i instantly jumped to ingition switch and/or starter. You can hit the starter with something metal and sometimes it can clean the contact points enough or tweak them to start the car, that didn't work so i went after the ignition switch. I replaced and still nothing, i put a jumper box on it and it started. Reason why it started was because the jumper box clamped down on my battery cable and made a better contact and it started, i removed it and it died instantly, here i am thinking its the alternator now, i go get one and i went to disconnect the battery cable and i noticed it broke and there was my problem. Something that could of been 20 minutes and a $5 item, because i simply overlooked the simple things because i THOUGHT it was good. But i bought a ignition switch, i was able to return the alternator and lucky the battery.

Do you have anything aftermarket on your car? Like a radio and other car charger things... a car charger the highest one i've seen draws and charges at 1 AMP. i really dont think its enough to draw a battery in a matter of a hour. headlights paired with other stuff like radio being on and lights will however.

I've also seen batteries test good in terms of voltage but didn't have enough cranking amps to start a car, just because its at 12.45v doesn't mean it has all of its CCA.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Did you check the fluid levels on the battery yet?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2010 | 03:45 PM
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What about the Windshield wiper valve springs? May have blown a spring?

Top off your headlight fluid, slap your wipers up and down in a 1,2,1,1,2 then walk around the car twice counter clockwise, if it doesn't start.... I don't know.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Alright so its been a long weekend but I got some more info. I worked on my car most of the day saturday figuring out whats wrong with it.

1. The battery is not the problem, dropped a brandnew battery in, and nope still nothing. Radio, lights, dash, windows, everything works with the old battery. I still dont get anything, the car doesn't even start to turn over.
2. We hooked a charger up to the battery, and tried to start it, it gave a little effort like it was trying to start, but then same thing. Radio, lights, dash, windows all work but not crank to get the car started.
3. We tried to jump the car with another car. Same thing, no turn over, no crank, nothing in any effort to get the car started, just all the electrical inside the car worked.

So after that we jacked the car up and got underneath it. We tapped the starter (just the old days on the old cars, and yes I tapped it but it was very lightly). After that the car made a few attempts to start. So all in all, we have come to the conclusion of a new starter. Infiniti is charging me $280 for the part plus the labor, but I have a good friends uncle who is only charging me for the part, $180 dollars installed, and out the the door. My car is being towed there right now. He's got a bunch of tests, and computer plugins he is running before he swaps it so at least I will know exactly what is wrong with the car.

Thank to everyone for their input, I do appreciate it big time.

and Blain......I tried your latest suggestion, it almost got the car started, but I think its because I walked clockwise and not counter clockwise.......

Wish my car luck on it being fixed. I got some rubber to burn off when its back on the streets before I pick up some new tires!
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Dude if you could locate and tap the starter, youd could have probably changed it. But good to know you got it pinned down.

Told you guys it wasn't the battery.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Sounds like the starter selenoid (sp) to me.. If you had the headlights on and tried to turn over the car, they would have dimmed if the battery is to blame.. Plus the instrument cluster should have made a wierd clicking sound because of not enough juice to power them if the batt was close to dead..
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Looks like you figured that out already... make sure its not the selenoid though, because if it doesnt click (when its not working), it might be that and not the actual starter
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DGS
What about the Windshield wiper valve springs? May have blown a spring?

Top off your headlight fluid, slap your wipers up and down in a 1,2,1,1,2 then walk around the car twice counter clockwise, if it doesn't start.... I don't know.
but that wont help if his blinker fluid is low
 
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Dude if you could locate and tap the starter, youd could have probably changed it. But good to know you got it pinned down.

Told you guys it wasn't the battery.
hahaha yeah I know should have changed it. I just have too much going on with work, so I mine as well just have the guy do it. After we messed around with that starter I gave up, it was almost 100 and I was dying so I just will leave it up to that guy. No enough patience or tools to mess around after we took the solenoid out. Just too much in the heat.

I know either way it'll be fixed by tonight, well at least I'm hoping, I better not jinx myself.

Originally Posted by geew1z
Sounds like the starter selenoid (sp) to me.. If you had the headlights on and tried to turn over the car, they would have dimmed if the battery is to blame.. Plus the instrument cluster should have made a wierd clicking sound because of not enough juice to power them if the batt was close to dead..
The battery is good, its either the solenoid or the starter, I have him looking into both.

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Looks like you figured that out already... make sure its not the selenoid though, because if it doesnt click (when its not working), it might be that and not the actual starter
the selenoid we actually took out, but just didn't have the time, tools, or patience to finish it up. The solenoid actually looks good, but this guy is checking both.

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but that wont help if his blinker fluid is low
dude where is the blinker fluid located. how come no one else has told me about this?????
 
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