Superchage my 2005 G35 or buy a new g37?

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Aug 31, 2010 | 10:28 PM
  #46  
Quote: thats what i am saying in a couple years you gonna see g35 as much as any honda accord nissan maxima and altima

your car is not going to be worth anything with or w/o turbo
You already see G35's riced out and ragged out, half the ones I see on the road have some sunken-in chrome rims and horribly tacky smoked lights. That being said, the fact that the G37 is a newer car that high schoolers can't afford (yet) is also pretty weak reason to buy one.
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Aug 31, 2010 | 11:03 PM
  #47  
Quote: You obviously didn't read the thread I posted earlier documenting (on the honour system, granted) many boosted G's on stock internals running 350+ for 30,000 miles and more.

Please show me the 'couple of thousand' bolt-on mod list and dyno chart for a 300whp NA VQ35, because I want me some of that!!

And as far as cheap NA builds, all it took kacz07 to hit the magic 300 was these few, inexpensive mods. I hope he got them all on eBay or they will be a bit over 'a couple thousand'...(I'm betting we blew that number at about item # 5)

Components from intake to Exhaust:

JWT PopCharger (ConceptZPerformance)
Custom RT Tuning 3inch MAF
Cosworth Manifold (Sharif@Forged)
Nismo Radiator Cap
Koyo R-core radiator
Samco hoses
GTM oil cooler
Ferrea +1mm Oversize Valve train
JWT C8R Camshafts
HR Head Gaskets
NGK Iridium tipped spark plugs (one step colder)
Wiseco 96mm 11.5:1 Pistons
-.020mm overbore
-ceramic coated
Eagle H-beam rods
ARP L19 Head Studs
ARP Main Stud kit
ACL Trust Washers
ACL Main Bearings
ACl Road Bearings
Engine Gasket Kit
Rear Main Seal Retainer


Engine Component Work:
-Block inspected and cleaned
-Block redecked
-Block Bored and Honed using a Torque Plate
-Rotating assembly balanced
-Crank magnafluxed
-Journals micro-polished
-Heads inspected and cleaned
-Heads redecked
-Ported exhaust and intake runners
-5 angle radius cut valve job
-Bowl work
-Valve stem seals installed
-Valve Stem Heights set
-Cold Clearance set for JWT cams
-Heads assembled

Megan Racing long tube headers
Motordyne Shockwave dual ti exhaust w/ XYZ straight pipe
UpRev Osiris Pro Tuner (w/ exhaust cam phasing)


_jb's made 312hp:


Engine Management System
Osiris Tuner Pro v2.0 (UpRev) - Rev Limit, Speed Limit, Reprogram Throttle Body, Tune, 5 Maps
Haltech Platinum PnP EMS Standalone for Air/Fuel Ratio, Ignition and Cam Timing
KPtechnologies VDC Memory Management Module
AutoMeter Nexus Water Temperature, Oil Pressure, and Air/Fuel Gauges

Engine
JE 11.7 CR +0.020 Pistons
Eagle Rods
ARP 2000 220,000 PSI Rated Rod Bolts
Calico Coated ACL Bearings
ARP Main Studs
ARP L19 Head Studs
HKS Head Gaskets
JWT C8R Camshafts
JWT Valve Springs and Shims
Deatschwerks 500cc Injectors
Cylinder Heads Ported with 5 Angle Valve Job
Nismo Oil Filler Cap

Intake and Exhaust
350Z Intake (Z-Tube)
K&N Hi-Flow Air Filter
CrawfordZ Polished Upper Plenum
CrawfordZ Headers with Jet-Hot 1300 Degree Coating
CrawfordZ High Flow Cats
HKS Hi-Power Ti Exhaust


1cockyz's list, with prices:


This is my N/A build project all prices listed
All machine work done by M2 race systems in Farmingdale, NJ

Short block:
Wiseco 11:1 .020" pistons $575 shipped on ebay new
Eagle rods $400 shipped from a forum member new
ACL race bearings, Calico CT-1 coated $256.85 shipped from calico
Machine work was $604.55 including nj 7% sales tax
bore and hone block $240
balanced rotating assembly $160
polish crank $45
Machine down the water jackets for the HR head gaskets $80
Measure all journals and housings $40
Revup oil pump $$185.50 new
OEM gasket set $287.41 new

Heads:
M2 Serdi valve job $335(4 angle with radius cut on intake and 1 angle with radius cut on exhaust) tips ground $55 and mill decks $125 and clean inspect assemble heads $150. Total for the heads was $711.55
Brian crower 264 cams with BC springs and Ti retainers $815 shipped forum member new
HR head gaskets and head bolts $116.80 including 7% sales tax

The intake and plenum setup: From filter to heads
JWT popcharger $109 from avalon racing new
samco intake duct $60 shipped on ebay new
proflow ported throttle body(not used on 2-19-09 dyno tune)
APS tall boy plenum $190 shipped from a forum member used
Nonrevup lower with all the casting imperfections removed
Z1 Big maf housing

Exhaust:
DC sports stainless headers $300 shipped ebay new
aps test pipes $85 shipped my350z member used
nismo y pipe and exhaust $575 ebay used

Misc:
JWT oil pan spacer $65 shipped from my350z member used
koyo r core $275 my350z member new
Fluidampr $335 from titan motorsports


All in all, my impression is it's a little beyond the OP's commitment level...
I suggest you keep searching
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Aug 31, 2010 | 11:14 PM
  #48  
That's a great reason to get a g37 and cars are just a phase. When the new 2000 maxima came out everyone wanted to get it because it was newer less miles and no one had it. It makes it look like you have money now the new 2009 everyone wants it.
Supercharged g35
Pros.
•Faster
•win street races

Cons
•Money
•Pullover rate will increase due to the
growing number of teens racing
•High mileage cars tend to need more mechanical work because this just stop working when ever it feel
•Alot of stops to the mechanic due to things breaking and not working
•Damage to parts like axles engine trans diff oh and tires lots of tires

Infiniti G37
Pros
• alot of people cannot afford it yet
• low miles meaning less trip to the mechanic more time driving
•you stand out because you have something newer
• Less mechanical problems
•newer technology

Cons
•Money
•Limited upgrades available
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Aug 31, 2010 | 11:29 PM
  #49  
Quote: It makes it look like you have money now the new 2009 everyone wants it.
I stopped equating cars to financial status a long time ago, a lot of losers living paycheck-to-paycheck I know drive Mercedes. A lot of doctors and business owners I know drive Toyota Camrys.

But hey if giving off the illusion of wealth is a big part of why you purchase a car, then by all means go get a G37. You're sure showing those high schoolers whose boss.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 12:00 AM
  #50  
Quote: Pros.
•Faster
•win street races

Infiniti G37

Cons
•Limited upgrades available
Really? One of your pros is street races?

What is limited? I have already done more to my G37 than I did to my G35.

In the end it is a simple decision. You could drop 20k into your G35 and build it. Then when you turn around to sell it, it will still be worth less than a stock G37. Plus the G37 has much nicer interior, factory warranty, not as market flooded, big brakes stock, ect ect ect.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 12:17 AM
  #51  
Quote: I stopped equating cars to financial status a long time ago, a lot of losers living paycheck-to-paycheck I know drive Mercedes. A lot of doctors and business owners I know drive Toyota Camrys.

But hey if giving off the illusion of wealth is a big part of why you purchase a car, then by all means go get a G37. You're sure showing those high schoolers whose boss.
I know it sounds a little naive but some people do that. Thats why the losers living paycheck to paycheck do it because they want people to think they are not broke. Doctors and business owner don't need to put off that illusion plus people know they have money. Do you think someone who can respectfully afford a 100,000 dollar is gonna drive a 15,000 dollar car.

The point is driving something new less problems
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Sep 1, 2010 | 12:20 AM
  #52  
Quote: The point is driving something new less problems
I totally agree. Earlier in the thread I said if you're even debating these two choices, most likely you're going to be happier with a G37. Dropping serious time, money, and dedication into an older platform like the VQ35DE is an acquired taste.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 12:25 AM
  #53  
Quote: Really? One of your pros is street races?

What is limited? I have already done more to my G37 than I did to my G35.

In the end it is a simple decision. You could drop 20k into your G35 and build it. Then when you turn around to sell it, it will still be worth less than a stock G37. Plus the G37 has much nicer interior, factory warranty, not as market flooded, big brakes stock, ect ect ect.
Yes one of the pros is street races why do you think most people install turbos
and spend 10k to 30k on mods now i'm not sure whats his reason for wanting a supercharger but for most people its a ego trip.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 12:41 AM
  #54  
Quote: woah stop there jeff this is a g35 forum meaning import no talk of how torque and hp american cars have. I hate to hear about american cars and their power so what nissan honda toyota are the top seller in america for a reason.
Top seller means nothing to me. Plain and simple a Pontaic GXP would give a supercharged G35 a good run for it's money and probably beat a G37.

Can't handle that? Well don't reply. It's a fact of life. The G8 series is a capable car and actually handles well too.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 10:12 AM
  #55  
Quote: I suggest you keep searching
Really? I can do all the work to prove your assertion?!? Golly gee, thanks, that's swell!

Signed,

Your Bitch (not)

I *am* seeing some VQ35HR's hit 300 with bolt-ons and a tune, but that's an 07-up car and not what the OP has.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 10:47 AM
  #56  
Quote: Top seller means nothing to me. Plain and simple a Pontaic GXP would give a supercharged G35 a good run for it's money and probably beat a G37.

Can't handle that? Well don't reply. It's a fact of life. The G8 series is a capable car and actually handles well too.
sarcasm, look it up...
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Sep 1, 2010 | 10:56 AM
  #57  
new g37 no brainer. Your g35 will get old soon and it would be a shame pouring lots of money into an old car. Get a g37 and when you have enough money start doing stuff to it. Not to mention the new sedans look ten times better than the old 03-06 sedans.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 11:56 AM
  #58  
how about this....get a new g37....and then supercharge it lol
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Sep 1, 2010 | 12:30 PM
  #59  
^^ shumby from Edmonton did just that.
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Sep 1, 2010 | 12:39 PM
  #60  
Quote: If a new G37 is on the table, I'd widen my search parameters. I mean a 450hp Pontiac GXP for example would destroy both of your options and be less than a new G37.
Interesting though Jeff, but I highly doubt many on this forum would go from an Infiniti to a Pontiac. I sure as hell wouldn't.
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