Alternatives to the TL and G35?
Haven't bought a G35, yet...
If I wasn't planning on buying a G35, I would seriously consider the TSX. I test drove the TL, just didn't seem to respond in corners like the TSX did. Yea, the TSX is a little underpowered, and if you are over 6'2", watch out for the ceiling, but man, a much more fun car to drive then the TL!
Originally Posted by bsgoren
FYI -
JM Lexus typically does in fact have the best deals (if you know how to 'wheel & deal' that is
)...JM is of course a part of JM Family Enterprises which owns SE Toyota, the largest Toyota/Lexus distributor in the U.S. Their prices should and are the best around due to the volume of cars they import. I've purchased 3 Lexus vehicles from them in the past and no other S. FL Lexus dealer could get close to their price (except maybe Lexus of Kendall) and just as important, their level of service and customer satisfaction. Put simply...JM Lexus is #1; too bad all car dealers (including the local S. FL Infiniti dealers) don't offer the level of service JM does...it's what puts them head-and-shoulders above the rest. I've told my Infiniti dealer's service dept. many times that they should send a couple of the service reps down to JM Lexus "as spies" to learn a few things and come back to implement what they saw and experienced at JM.
All that being said, I can say that we are an Infiniti family (for now anyhow
) because of the value, sportiness and "fun factor" of the new Infiniti's offer over Lexus, BMW, and Mercedes. Infiniti service is better than most and getting better each time I visit my dealer, but it's still not up to par with JM Lexus...sorry. We have an '03 FX35 loaded with Prem., Sport, and Tech packages and my '04.5 G35 of course. We're not married to Infiniti and wouldn't mind having another Lexus, but for now, we love our cars. 
And, BTW - NickK6...you cannot compare the Lexus ES330 with a G35 Sedan, since the ES330 is a FWD-Toyota Camry-based entry-lux "old fart" sedan and the G35 Sedan as you know, is an entry lux RWD sport sedan, based on the 350Z...not exactly close!
The Lexus IS300, however is their RWD entry lux sports sedan which does compete with the Infiniti G35 Sedan.
JM Lexus typically does in fact have the best deals (if you know how to 'wheel & deal' that is
)...JM is of course a part of JM Family Enterprises which owns SE Toyota, the largest Toyota/Lexus distributor in the U.S. Their prices should and are the best around due to the volume of cars they import. I've purchased 3 Lexus vehicles from them in the past and no other S. FL Lexus dealer could get close to their price (except maybe Lexus of Kendall) and just as important, their level of service and customer satisfaction. Put simply...JM Lexus is #1; too bad all car dealers (including the local S. FL Infiniti dealers) don't offer the level of service JM does...it's what puts them head-and-shoulders above the rest. I've told my Infiniti dealer's service dept. many times that they should send a couple of the service reps down to JM Lexus "as spies" to learn a few things and come back to implement what they saw and experienced at JM.All that being said, I can say that we are an Infiniti family (for now anyhow
) because of the value, sportiness and "fun factor" of the new Infiniti's offer over Lexus, BMW, and Mercedes. Infiniti service is better than most and getting better each time I visit my dealer, but it's still not up to par with JM Lexus...sorry. We have an '03 FX35 loaded with Prem., Sport, and Tech packages and my '04.5 G35 of course. We're not married to Infiniti and wouldn't mind having another Lexus, but for now, we love our cars. 
And, BTW - NickK6...you cannot compare the Lexus ES330 with a G35 Sedan, since the ES330 is a FWD-Toyota Camry-based entry-lux "old fart" sedan and the G35 Sedan as you know, is an entry lux RWD sport sedan, based on the 350Z...not exactly close!
The Lexus IS300, however is their RWD entry lux sports sedan which does compete with the Infiniti G35 Sedan.
Originally Posted by G35sedanman
I had been at JM Lexus for a quote on a ES330 in 2004. A relative of mine was a contractor for them and knows many people that are high up on the food chain at JM Family. I asked our salesperson if speaking with the people my relative was friendly with would help me make a good deal. He went to talk to his sales manager and came back with the message that I would receive the "JM FAMILY DEAL", that is what employees pay. Well I checked with County Wide Lexus and the JM Family deal ended up being 1100.00 higher than County Wide Lexus. I obviously was disjointed with that. The JM salesperson called me several days later and asked me if I was interested in purchasing. After telling him I had a quote in writing from a competitor, he said he would match the price. I could never trust JM to give me a good deal after that. Hope their service dept is more honest!!
;just that I've had nothing but very good experiences with them in the past and would recommend them to anyone looking for a Lexus in S. FL). It sounds like they were just toying with you and you were not in fact offered the 'JM Family deal.' Unfortunately, they were not honest with you.
However, their service dept. really is second to none...I've never had the level of customer service and satisfaction ever from any other car dealer. BTW - if you're interested in a Lexus in the future, PM me and I'll give you the name and number of my previous JM Lexus salesguy...he is excellent and very honest; he will not toy with you.
I would argue that at a starting price of $41K, that the SRT-8 is an alternative... It is for me at least... It is definitely going to incur a gas guzzler tax so that needs to be considered...
It is in the price range of a loaded 35x yet is in the same peformance category as a CTS-V, E55, etc...
Just my $0.02
It is in the price range of a loaded 35x yet is in the same peformance category as a CTS-V, E55, etc...
Just my $0.02
Originally Posted by bsgoren
Sorry you had that kind of experience at JM Lexus (not that I work for them
;just that I've had nothing but very good experiences with them in the past and would recommend them to anyone looking for a Lexus in S. FL). It sounds like they were just toying with you and you were not in fact offered the 'JM Family deal.' Unfortunately, they were not honest with you.
However, their service dept. really is second to none...I've never had the level of customer service and satisfaction ever from any other car dealer. BTW - if you're interested in a Lexus in the future, PM me and I'll give you the name and number of my previous JM Lexus salesguy...he is excellent and very honest; he will not toy with you. 
;just that I've had nothing but very good experiences with them in the past and would recommend them to anyone looking for a Lexus in S. FL). It sounds like they were just toying with you and you were not in fact offered the 'JM Family deal.' Unfortunately, they were not honest with you.
However, their service dept. really is second to none...I've never had the level of customer service and satisfaction ever from any other car dealer. BTW - if you're interested in a Lexus in the future, PM me and I'll give you the name and number of my previous JM Lexus salesguy...he is excellent and very honest; he will not toy with you. 
Originally Posted by G35sedanman
Thanks for the offer. My neighbors brother started working there several months ago. However, I have my G and my wife opted not to buy the ES330 even though Countywide gave us a great price. She decided on the Audi A4 1.8 T with CVT tranny. The car is denim blue and looks hot with the sport package. The only problem, off the line, with turbo lag and the cvt, the pickup is not sufficient. Being used to the G, I sometimes pull out into traffic and realize the Audi can't make it. I have had people pissed at me. Now, I remember the story about the tortoise and the rabbit. The G is the cwazy wabbit ! OK, at least I did not tell roadrunner stories !!(LOL)
I liked the styling of the TL but loved the ride of the G Sedan.
Can't have nearly as much fun in the snow in a TL
Now I like the G's look better anyway. -After my 19's
Can't have nearly as much fun in the snow in a TL
Now I like the G's look better anyway. -After my 19's
Last edited by BEK27; Jan 18, 2005 at 08:44 PM.
Originally Posted by bsgoren
...hard to compare an Audi A4 1.8T (or even the 3.0 V6 for that matter) with the Infiniti G35 with 260-280HP and 260-270 lb./ft. Torque. Yes, the Audi's look nice, and are nicely equipped - definite luxury on the inside, but power and reliability are another story. I'm sure your wife loves her Audi as much as you love your G35! 

I test drove that A4 before I got my G and man was I dissapointed with 170hp, my 2.5 Altima had 175 and could easily romp on the 30k Audi. The interior for a 30k car was not up to my standards, but I think its one of the nicest looking cars on the road. Even nicer then the G, but when it comes to driving, I'll take a G anyday
The TSX is basically a Honda Accord why not buy a Accord For Less IMO
Originally Posted by samir786
This might sound crazy, but I was actually thinking of the TSX as well. Sure the power is not there, only 200 hp, but it's a 2.4, 4 cylinder. Save TONS on gas, acceleration is descent, but handling is exceptional. Everything is standard, and with navi, it comes out to $29K.
- Leather
_ Homelink
- Vechile stability control
- Bose audio
- side mirror blinkers
- auto-dimming mirror
- voice command (audio, climate control, navi)
- xenon headlights
Just something to think about as well...
- Leather
_ Homelink
- Vechile stability control
- Bose audio
- side mirror blinkers
- auto-dimming mirror
- voice command (audio, climate control, navi)
- xenon headlights
Just something to think about as well...
Originally Posted by Nickk6
I test drove that A4 before I got my G and man was I dissapointed with 170hp, my 2.5 Altima had 175 and could easily romp on the 30k Audi. The interior for a 30k car was not up to my standards, but I think its one of the nicest looking cars on the road. Even nicer then the G, but when it comes to driving, I'll take a G anyday
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Originally Posted by G35sedanman
I think you basically hit the nail on the head although I am more attached to my car than she is to hers. She likes her car, I love mine. I enjoy an afternoon of washing, waxing , smoking a cigar and then cleaning the interior, making the car look beautiful. She always enjoys the finished product but does not enjoy the process. Ah well, boys will be boys !!
You sound exactly like me......I can spend a whole day of cleaning, waxing....etc to my car! It's my own personal therapy!!
I good Cuban cigar is a definite bonus!!
Originally Posted by G35XLOVER
The TSX is basically a Honda Accord why not buy a Accord For Less IMO
2. The interior on the TSX is miles ahead of the Accord.
3. The suspension on the TSX is in another league from the Accord.
4. The TSX is an entry level luxury sports sedan.
5. 17" wheels.
6. The TSX has a much better warranty.
7. Same price as the top of the line Accord.
This is just the most obvious differences.
Last edited by G4me; Jan 19, 2005 at 12:23 PM.
Originally Posted by G4me
1. The Accord is bland, almost ugly.
2. The interior on the TSX is miles ahead of the Accord.
3. The suspension on the TSX is in another league from the Accord.
4. The TSX is an entry level luxury sports sedan.
5. 17" wheels.
6. The TSX has a much better warranty.
7. Same price as the top of the line Accord.
This is just the most obvious differences.
2. The interior on the TSX is miles ahead of the Accord.
3. The suspension on the TSX is in another league from the Accord.
4. The TSX is an entry level luxury sports sedan.
5. 17" wheels.
6. The TSX has a much better warranty.
7. Same price as the top of the line Accord.
This is just the most obvious differences.



