Did ANy1 pAy cAsh for there car?
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I'm REALLY not sure what you're asking or, actually, what you're trying to say. I personally paid mostly cash, meaning that I only financed about $7 large. I found it silly to drain money out of an investment that was yielding 4% in lieu of borrowing money at 2.9%. In this scenario it was obviously a no brainer...use somebody elses money and SAVE. Anybody who thinks the dealer is going to give you an additional break for paying cash is "old school delusional". By this I mean there are some "older'' folk that still think a dealer would rather that you pay cash and will give you an additional discount to save them the hassle of financing...LOL. Only somebody living under a rock still believes that. Regardless of the fact that it's VERY little anymore, a dealer does MAKE money on the finance reserve (usually less than 3/4 of a point over the course of 60 mo. loan) And, considering the ABYSMAL profit on the "front end" that they generally make....any additional monies made are welcome. Draining money markets, and the like, to avoid borrowing the CHEAP money that's out there is NO reason get "Puffy Chested". The only "statement" you're making is that you're possibly a person that steps over quarters to pick up dimes. Generally I'll borrow a little $ over a long time period and make double or tripple payments until whatever investment I'm working on at the time matures. I then pay it off in it's entirety so, basically, it costs me nothing to use somebody elses' $$$. Also...what the hell does this mean? ...."Did ANy1 pAy cAsh for there car?" Do you mean perhaps "did anybody elses' Daddy pay way too much cash for their car?" LMFAO...$41,000 for an 02/03' G? Call me ...I've got a lightly used bridge for sale and I'll give ya a break if you pay cash....yeeesch! JBX has left the forum ...laughing audibly
H to the izz-O, V to the izz-A, Fo' shizzle my nizzle used to dribble down in VA
H to the izz-O, V to the izz-A, Fo' shizzle my nizzle used to dribble down in VA
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I think the next investment R35 should make is in a G.E.D./vocab.tutor/typing inst. or in Humility 101. I'm debating on downloading some of his/her posts and using them in for a "Stay in School" campaign advertisement....No?
... Just kidding,JustBrilliant
... Just kidding,JustBrilliant
Originally Posted by JustBrilliantX
... I found it silly to drain money out of an investment that was yielding 4% in lieu of borrowing money at 2.9%. In this scenario it was obviously a no brainer...use somebody elses money and SAVE. Anybody who thinks the dealer is going to give you an additional break for paying cash is "old school delusional"....
And if you think that the dealer is hopping up and down to make 2.9% loans and at the same time being willing to negotiate down to an absolute minimum sale price than I'd like to underwrite that bridge your trying to buy.
The dealer's total profit might be maximized by offering you an artificially low interest rate to permit you to make your monthly payments and thus qualify for the loan and make the purchase - however he is going to make up part of that gross profit loss by not lowering the price as far as he might otherwise be willing to do. Of course, in the best of all dealer worlds, he'll sell you the car at or near MSRP and also get you that 7% loan. If you don't believe that, you haven't been reading the threads lately.
First deal on the price of the car, then you talk financing. That is how you negotiate. Listen and learn, JBX is on the money with his post.
Dealers may negotiate on price of cars based on what the financing looks like but this is usually done on used cars, still negotiate price first. I can EASILY get an 05 G35 at invoice and still get 2.9 for 60 here in LA, CA. So Saltidawg, your theory is voided in most instances. Just the facts.
Dealers may negotiate on price of cars based on what the financing looks like but this is usually done on used cars, still negotiate price first. I can EASILY get an 05 G35 at invoice and still get 2.9 for 60 here in LA, CA. So Saltidawg, your theory is voided in most instances. Just the facts.
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g35miked- it may have been a good idea to take the financing for a few months and then pay off the principal. You would build credit and get better interest rates on the next credit based decision (i.e. another loan, cc, etc). In the long run saving $.
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Originally Posted by SaltiDawg
JustBrilliantX,
And if you think that the dealer is hopping up and down to make 2.9% loans and at the same time being willing to negotiate down to an absolute minimum sale price than I'd like to underwrite that bridge your trying to buy.
The dealer's total profit might be maximized by offering you an artificially low interest rate to permit you to make your monthly payments and thus qualify for the loan and make the purchase - however he is going to make up part of that gross profit loss by not lowering the price as far as he might otherwise be willing to do. Of course, in the best of all dealer worlds, he'll sell you the car at or near MSRP and also get you that 7% loan. If you don't believe that, you haven't been reading the threads lately. 
And if you think that the dealer is hopping up and down to make 2.9% loans and at the same time being willing to negotiate down to an absolute minimum sale price than I'd like to underwrite that bridge your trying to buy.
The dealer's total profit might be maximized by offering you an artificially low interest rate to permit you to make your monthly payments and thus qualify for the loan and make the purchase - however he is going to make up part of that gross profit loss by not lowering the price as far as he might otherwise be willing to do. Of course, in the best of all dealer worlds, he'll sell you the car at or near MSRP and also get you that 7% loan. If you don't believe that, you haven't been reading the threads lately. 
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Originally Posted by istick2u
I put $16,000 down and owe around $20,000. Payments are $438, but I pay $500 so I can pay it off early. I wish I paid all cash.
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Originally Posted by G35miked
i was going to finance but the rate was almost 10 percent, becuase i have no credit so i just wrote a check for 34 grand, and now i am poor.


