I got taken by an S2000
Ok so one of my good buddies has an S2000, a white one (which by the way I tell him to paint to another color all the time!) hah. Anyways, I found out first hand that those are great top end horse power cars. So we raced from a dead stop and I took a 1/2 car lead to 50, and we were even from 50-75...then he smoked my *** hardcore style to probably 105 or something like that. I thought my G (which is an 04' 5AT by the way) would insanely burn him off the line, but he kept up and was only behind by about 1/2 a car from the start until he blew by. I didnt use the manual mode, I just went auto. My friend is a good stick driver.
Do you guys think that if we race from like 20mph, I will win or what? (haha-I only have a Z-tube and coupe midpipe, so my car sounds amazing....but its stock-haha! So what do u guys think?
Do you guys think that if we race from like 20mph, I will win or what? (haha-I only have a Z-tube and coupe midpipe, so my car sounds amazing....but its stock-haha! So what do u guys think?
Sounds about right. I get to drive and track S2ks quite often. As much as people poke fun of the little S2k ... it's faster than most would like to believe. It is afterall a high-13/low-14 second car (tested by all major mags) ... same ball park as the 6mt G35/350Z, with the 04 and earlier AT sedans a tad slower. The S2k is however harder to get a perfect launch than the G. I'm sure if you buddy was willing to try harder, he'd have no problem staying even w. you from the get go then pass you up.
On a road course ... the S2k shines even more!
On a road course ... the S2k shines even more!
Just remember sport luxory vs sport. Where do the 2 child booster seats go in the honda? oh yea bungy strapped to the trunk! You held your own to a true sports car! Be thankful! Peace.
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The 2004 S2000 was given an extra .2 liters in displacemnet to help with the low end torque and the fact that it weighs about 500+ lbs less than our heavy pigs makes up for the torque advantage a G35 has. Like Clint said a S2000 driver would have to rev pretty high off the line to get a good launch. Bascially stock for stock, a 6MT S2K and a 6MT G35 would come down to a drivers race in a straight line. In the turns the S2K has the advantage.
Aren't thos ethings doing 0-60 in low 5's? As far as revvin, that's what they're made to do. Honda has used the same high rev technology that they use in their bikes, in that car. It's rev-happy and will smoke our G anyday, given of course a good driver. Sorry guys.
Originally Posted by gtbigup01
Aren't thos ethings doing 0-60 in low 5's?
This is why 0-60 is relatively useless as a good means of comparing. That was fine 10, 20 years ago where anything over 200hp was consider exotic territory. Now days, look to more meaningful measurements such as 0-100 and 0-150. 1/4-mile time could be used as a supplement to the two above, since it's a measurement of time-to-distance rather than time-to-speed. As such, launch technique again plays a significant role in 1/4-mile E.T. (effectively bringing the drive back into the picture).
It's not so much about the ability to rev. The 6600rpm redline (or 7000rpm for the newer VQ) is abismal for today's standard and certainly not the pinnacle of Nissan's ability. The issue is in the ability to efficiently utilize the extra revs. In the case of the stock VQ ... going to 8000rpm is achievable. The stroke length, bore-stroke ratio, etc. scream high rev ... but the cams and heads said otherwise. The current VTC system is also inadequate for the task. A new set of cams with greater lift and duration is needed, but one that's also not so great for lower rev ranges. That is the beauty of the Honda's VTEC system. The 2nd set of cam brings new life to the engine pass 6000rpm. It puzzles me why Nissan decided not to continue the use of their VVL system (a virtually VTEC copy down to the mechanism). It was only implemented for just a few models in Japan in the mid/late 90s. One may recall the amazing Pulsar that pumps out 200hp w. a mere 1.6L (making even the folks at Honda squirm). I wonder if there was a patent infringment issue w. Honda or not.
Originally Posted by THX723
It puzzles me why Nissan decided not to continue the use of their VVL system (a virtually VTEC copy down to the mechanism). It was only implemented for just a few models in Japan in the mid/late 90s. One may recall the amazing Pulsar that pumps out 200hp w. a mere 1.6L (making even the folks at Honda squirm). I wonder if there was a patent infringment issue w. Honda or not.
raced my buddy in his S2 plenty of times, 40-115 i pull away by about 2.5 cars, even got it on video somewhere. from a dead stop its dead even until the top of 3rd into 4th gear, where i slowly start to pull away. he's got a cat-back exhaust and intake and i believe his car is an 01, and he's a pretty good shifter at that. my car is bone stock with the exception of 19" rims.
an S2000 has its best chance keeping up in the beginning...top end its starts to run outta juice since it has such low torque...my friend had an S2000 and was hitting 13.9 at the track stock...and my other friend with a 92 prelude(non-vtech) with a few mods beat my friends S2000 on the freeway by 2-3 cars...


