G35 Sedan V35 2003-06 Discussion about the 1st Generation V35 G35 Sedan

test drove a 325i ($36k) and 330i ($45k) today

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Old 08-08-2005, 11:34 PM
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He didn't get it did he, JK?
Oh i did...my 330 is just wonderful

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Old 08-09-2005, 04:48 AM
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for 45k i wouldnt be thinking about a bimmer. id get a caddy CTS-V. have you driven 1? i have let me tell you it FREAKING INSANE. just like a vette but more civilized, i would never buy a bimmer, wayyyy overpriced, 46k for a 330 fully loaded,and no discounts dealers wont budge on the price. but the G's are crazy discounted, they even offfer FREE SERVICE FOR 4 YRs OR 39,999 miles, out of infiniti in WARWICK ,RI. cant beat that.
 
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As a former owner of an E46 M3 I have to agree that the 3 series uses higher quality materials than that used in the G35, but I don't agree that the build quality is better. At worst the G35 is on a par with the 3 series in build quality. Maybe I'll have a different view in three years, since the 3 series does hold up very well.

I too have a hard time believing that the supposedly entry level 3 series can cost around $50K with taxes. Wow, that's getting up there in my book, but I don't blame BMW. If they can get that kind of money for their brand name, they would be foolish to charge less.

The performance of the 330 and G35 are quite similar. The 330 has the latest in technology and the materials used in the 330 are of a higher quality, but that doesn't translate to a $10K differance IMO. OK maybe it's actually a $9K differance since BMW provides 4 years/50K mile service at no charge.
 
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Old 08-09-2005, 07:50 AM
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I don't follow the reasoning that becuase bmw offers a maintenance free program that the cost is justified. My brother-in-law has an '03 330 coupe and paid 8 thousand more than I did for my '03 coupe. I sold my coupe at about 50,000 miles with no more than the required oil changes, warranty brake replacement and the valve cover gasket replacement (warranty). My out of pocket was about 500 dollars for the maintenance. So, I should pay no more than 500 dollars for a bmw over my Infiniti.

I do like the bmw materials and love the seats in the new 3 series. However, I will stick with my bang-for-the-buck G35 and put the difference in my 401K and know that I base my buying decisions on real quantifiable variables and not emotion or ***** envy.
 
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Old 08-09-2005, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FAST1
but that doesn't translate to a $10K differance IMO. OK maybe it's actually a $9K differance since BMW provides 4 years/50K mile service at no charge.
The difference is actually higher, when you take into account the discount you're going to realize on the G vs the one you won't on the BMW.

In the recent Motor Trend article, the G was $36K and the BMW was $47K. Take a conservative $2500 off the G (making it $33.5K - most will get it cheaper but this is fair for argument's sake) and you're looking at a price gap of $13.5K. Even with NAV on the G, it's over 10K.

No way in h#ll a 330 is that good. I don't care if the interior materials are woven from Jessica Alba's pubes.. Sorry, that last sentence made no sense, but this thread needed a booty reference..

 

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Old 08-09-2005, 09:57 AM
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The difference is actually higher, when you take into account the discount you're going to realize on the G vs the one you won't on the BMW.

In the recent Motor Trend article, the G was $36K and the BMW was $47K. Take a conservative $2500 off the G (making it $33.5K - most will get it cheaper but this is fair for argument's sake) and you're looking at a price gap of $13.5K. Even with NAV on the G, it's over 10K.

No way in h#ll a 330 is that good. I don't care if the interior materials are woven from Jessica Alba's pubes.. Sorry, that last sentence made no sense, but this thread needed a booty reference..

LOL I agree with you but apparently many others don't. BMW doesn't have any problem selling their cars. To many people German made cars carry a certain prestiege over Japanese cars, so they are willing to pay a premium for cars like the BMW.
 
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Old 08-09-2005, 10:01 AM
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I don't follow the reasoning that becuase bmw offers a maintenance free program that the cost is justified. My brother-in-law has an '03 330 coupe and paid 8 thousand more than I did for my '03 coupe. I sold my coupe at about 50,000 miles with no more than the required oil changes, warranty brake replacement and the valve cover gasket replacement (warranty). My out of pocket was about 500 dollars for the maintenance. So, I should pay no more than 500 dollars for a bmw over my Infiniti.

I do like the bmw materials and love the seats in the new 3 series. However, I will stick with my bang-for-the-buck G35 and put the difference in my 401K and know that I base my buying decisions on real quantifiable variables and not emotion or ***** envy.
Then you didn't follow Infiniti recommendations for maintenance. The two year/30K maintenance service for example costs over $500, at least in my area. I beleve the one year/12K service is around $120.
 
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In my experience, dealers here in Houston pretty much charge you for the 2 year service. The dealers won't exactly confess this but when pressed, they pretty much agree that it's a cost that has to be covered.

For grins, I went to edmunds.com and built a 330 6mt BMW with leather and sport suspension for $40k. A similar 6mt G35 with leather, sport costs only $29k. Wow. Start checking off options on the BMW and the price easily hits $50k! Who is going to spend $50k on a 3 series??? Even if you hold onto a car for 10 years, I doubt the G35 is going to rack up an extra $10k in maintenance costs. Resell value is probably higher in the BMW but not that much. Add in the fact that the BWM comes with less power, how can you say with a straight face that the BMW is a better buy? Seriously, BMW makes a great car but how much is that emblem on the hood worth?
 
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No, I did not do the "Dealer Maintenance Program". Have the dealer check what you cannot (greasing door hinges is waste of time) and do what you cannot or are not willing to do (rear diff fluid change). Either way, the total does not equate to $10,000. But maybe bmw guys use new math. It is true that when a bmw pulls up, it garners more "ahhh". But I do not have a low self-esteem that requires a bmw.

J/K
 
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Old 08-09-2005, 01:47 PM
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The current BMW 330i drives like no other in it's class and has some cool technology - thats one reason they will sell more of the 3 series than ever. But frikkin come on. For 50K - get the 530i! Why bother with a 3 when you can have the consummate sports sedan for the same money.
 
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Old 08-09-2005, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by myG35ZX
No, I did not do the "Dealer Maintenance Program". Have the dealer check what you cannot (greasing door hinges is waste of time) and do what you cannot or are not willing to do (rear diff fluid change). Either way, the total does not equate to $10,000. But maybe bmw guys use new math. It is true that when a bmw pulls up, it garners more "ahhh". But I do not have a low self-esteem that requires a bmw.

J/K
That's the thing. When a BMW pulls up beside me, I don't think "ahhh," I think "just another BMW," and then "there goes another person with more money than sense."

While BMWs may carry more prestige (to some people), that prestige definitely does not start with the 330 any more than with the C230 Mercedes. To me. You want to talk M3, 545, 745/750, M5, now the M6 - okay, I'll give you those. The rest? Nothing really special. Nice cars overshadowed by ridiculously high price tags.

I've driven every shape and size of BMW and I don't buy into the self-assigned 'Ultimate Driving Machine' motto that BMW is so fond of. Nice to drive for sure, but I'll keep (and obviously did) the ~$10K, thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by SixFive
The current BMW 330i drives like no other in it's class and has some cool technology - thats one reason they will sell more of the 3 series than ever. But frikkin come on. For 50K - get the 530i! Why bother with a 3 when you can have the consummate sports sedan for the same money.

if we are talking $50,000, my money is headed to infiniti for a M45.
 
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Yeah I'd probably be right behind you at the dealer..point is that the 5 is predatory on BMW's own line up!
 
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well, i thought it was stupid to price a fully loaded --well, reasonably loaded 330i all the way to $48,000.

that prices this car in another class.

if the 3 series with every option available was priced at per say $44,000 then youd be talking. and again, that would be price with options 98% of the world would not need. to get a 325i with the 3 pkgs and xenons and nothing else, youre looking at $41,000


its insane BMW 3series do not come standard with floor mats.
 


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