Oil Change Issue
#17
Originally Posted by hilmar2k
So I have an '05 G35s 6MT with about 4000 miles on it. So I took it in (not to the dealer) for an oil change. I have since noticed a fairly large oil puddle on my garage floor (seems like maybe 1/2 a quart or so). Extremely unhappy, I checked the oil level, which was down a touch, and tool it back to the shop. They tell me it is "frame oil". he told me that on this car, there is no way to remove the oil filter without a bunch of oil spilling out onto the frame, and subsequently onto your garage floor. Anyone else experience this? He told me it was true for all of the 3.5L Nissan/Infiniti vehicles. I had an '02 Maxima, and never noticed this problem.
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Originally Posted by KingoftheRoad1
I hate the damn dealers treat customers as morons They think that all of us don't js about cars. Yes, there is plastic cover under the car, but you are suppose to remove it when changing oil! No reponsible dealer would leave the cover on when changing oil. I can't believe they even invent the term "frame oil"!!!
#19
Originally Posted by kei
I don't understand why they these places don't even think about about removing the plastic shield, isn't it common sense? It's only a few bolts so take them off and clean the inside of the shield, if it's still leaking, they may have not changed the washer and used the old one.
I was ok with the same washer for 1 oil change but the second time, it started to leak so it's best to change it everytime.
I was ok with the same washer for 1 oil change but the second time, it started to leak so it's best to change it everytime.
I thought it was something like 15 bolts- I always have Lokey Infiniti change the oil.
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the cover is part of the aero kit which reduces the drag coeffcient slightly. I think the main benefit is that it somewhat seals off the motor to junk on the roadway.
There is a little hole by the the filter and plug area. I have thought about making theis slightly bigger so I can fit my peter beaters in there to get the filter and drain plug out.
There is a little hole by the the filter and plug area. I have thought about making theis slightly bigger so I can fit my peter beaters in there to get the filter and drain plug out.
#26
Originally Posted by DP03
My owners manual says its four corner bolts and a center clip. No mention of 12 bolts...
That's based on using a hoist.
At the stealership they don't take out the ones across the front.
Only the back 4 or so & let it hang down.
I've seen them use a bungie to hold it forward out of the way
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Always one to present the other side, here goes.
I've been lazy and taking my cars (6) to my local Jiffy Lube for about 5 years now (ever since I started making a few bucks, and the time became more valuable than the $). I hang around outside the service bay, and talk cars & BS with the techs while they are changing my oil, etc. First time I took my "G" there (1,000 miles on her), they already knew about the underbody pan and quoted me $10 extra for R & R, in addition to normal oil change $. Lucky I already knew about the underbody pan removal, due to time & research spent on this site
Just took my "G" in yesterday morning, had two techs 23-25 yrs old - really interested in the 6MT aspect of my car and asked me a lot of questions. Guy underneath was using an air wrench to remove the bolts from the pan (zip, zip, zip), with the speed/pressure turned down real low, and he did the final tightening by hand with a 3/8th's ratchet. He seemed to care.
Do I think every place is like this? NO.
Do I think even this place will always be like this? NO.
Are there pimply faced 18 year olds working at oil change places who are incompetent and/or just don't care? YOU BETCHA!
Is this particular place being especially careful with me, because I'm watching them? Maybe ... probably, even, to some degree (it's human nature).
But I think that talking with the guys and relating to them on a car level is good for all of us, and, I know they can tell I appreciate them, and what they do. Plus, if they've worked there long, they've got a lot of stories about what they've seen people do to and with their cars, from the greatest neglect to the most **** perfection. It can be enlightening!
The nearest dealership is almost an hour's drive, so that's not an option, either. Also, I was between appointments with a little time on my hands in another town one day last year, spotted a quick lube place with an open bay, and drove on over. Did the same thing, talked and joked with the techs while they did their thing,etc. Was very happy with their work, no oil spills or other disasters, etc. - out in 10 minutes. As long as they have Valvoline 5/30 wt, I'm good to go.
I'm sure there is a lot of abuse and incompetence at many of these places, but with a little prudence, caution, and BS - it works for me. Just another side to the coin that is life.
My $0.02
I've been lazy and taking my cars (6) to my local Jiffy Lube for about 5 years now (ever since I started making a few bucks, and the time became more valuable than the $). I hang around outside the service bay, and talk cars & BS with the techs while they are changing my oil, etc. First time I took my "G" there (1,000 miles on her), they already knew about the underbody pan and quoted me $10 extra for R & R, in addition to normal oil change $. Lucky I already knew about the underbody pan removal, due to time & research spent on this site
Just took my "G" in yesterday morning, had two techs 23-25 yrs old - really interested in the 6MT aspect of my car and asked me a lot of questions. Guy underneath was using an air wrench to remove the bolts from the pan (zip, zip, zip), with the speed/pressure turned down real low, and he did the final tightening by hand with a 3/8th's ratchet. He seemed to care.
Do I think every place is like this? NO.
Do I think even this place will always be like this? NO.
Are there pimply faced 18 year olds working at oil change places who are incompetent and/or just don't care? YOU BETCHA!
Is this particular place being especially careful with me, because I'm watching them? Maybe ... probably, even, to some degree (it's human nature).
But I think that talking with the guys and relating to them on a car level is good for all of us, and, I know they can tell I appreciate them, and what they do. Plus, if they've worked there long, they've got a lot of stories about what they've seen people do to and with their cars, from the greatest neglect to the most **** perfection. It can be enlightening!
The nearest dealership is almost an hour's drive, so that's not an option, either. Also, I was between appointments with a little time on my hands in another town one day last year, spotted a quick lube place with an open bay, and drove on over. Did the same thing, talked and joked with the techs while they did their thing,etc. Was very happy with their work, no oil spills or other disasters, etc. - out in 10 minutes. As long as they have Valvoline 5/30 wt, I'm good to go.
I'm sure there is a lot of abuse and incompetence at many of these places, but with a little prudence, caution, and BS - it works for me. Just another side to the coin that is life.
My $0.02
Last edited by dbarnes; 08-25-2005 at 09:18 PM.
#28
Originally Posted by shodog
the cover is part of the aero kit which reduces the drag coeffcient slightly.
There is a little hole by the the filter and plug area. I have thought about making theis slightly bigger so I can fit my peter beaters in there to get the filter and drain plug out.
And dbarnes, good post about finding a local oil-change shop that cares. Few and far between I'm afraid.
#29
Why would anyone not trust their dealer but willing to trust the care of their vehicle to another repair shop? Maybe it's just me but I'm thinking if I can't /won't do it myself, it's going to he one's that are certified on my specific brand. I know you'll think/ say they suck but once again ther're certified on my particular brand and thus are liable for any screw-ups ( lack of a better word).
BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
#30
Originally Posted by DP03
"I change my oil myself..."
As do I. Just haven't done the first one yet on the G. Is this cover funtional, or simply to get more people to run to the dealers for oil changes? Some under covers have a purpose, others don't.
As do I. Just haven't done the first one yet on the G. Is this cover funtional, or simply to get more people to run to the dealers for oil changes? Some under covers have a purpose, others don't.