Should I use a jack stand to change a tire?
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Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
It's pretty easy to kick yourself in the head with a prosthetic limb, just take it off and swing!
Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
Where would you lift the car with a hydraulic jack? I used to always lift a car with a floor jack under the suspension, is this still a good idea?
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Originally Posted by ABQ_G35
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Where would you lift the car with a hydraulic jack? I used to always lift a car with a floor jack under the suspension, is this still a good idea?
Where would you lift the car with a hydraulic jack? I used to always lift a car with a floor jack under the suspension, is this still a good idea?
For the front there is a lift point near the center, between the front wheels.
I lift the front first since it's the tightest clearance for the floor jack.
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Originally Posted by inTgr8r
Under the rear differential, lifts back end.
For the front there is a lift point near the center, between the front wheels.
I lift the front first since it's the tightest clearance for the floor jack.
For the front there is a lift point near the center, between the front wheels.
I lift the front first since it's the tightest clearance for the floor jack.
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Originally Posted by inTgr8r
Under the rear differential, lifts back end.
For the front there is a lift point near the center, between the front wheels.
I lift the front first since it's the tightest clearance for the floor jack.
For the front there is a lift point near the center, between the front wheels.
I lift the front first since it's the tightest clearance for the floor jack.
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Why are you asking if you should use a jack stand or not? If you want to use one then use them, if not then don't. There is no law saying you have to use them or not.
When I rotate or change tires, I don't put my legs under my car, you wouldn't want to kick that jack by accident. Never put your bodyparts under a car unless you need too.
When I rotate or change tires, I don't put my legs under my car, you wouldn't want to kick that jack by accident. Never put your bodyparts under a car unless you need too.
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[QUOTE=smedly]Why are you asking if you should use a jack stand or not? If you want to use one then use them, if not then don't. There is no law saying you have to use them or not.
Because I was getting conflicting opinions regarding safety that is why I asked. Are all your reponses as insightful as this?
Because I was getting conflicting opinions regarding safety that is why I asked. Are all your reponses as insightful as this?
#25
Originally Posted by eldy
Use a "safety stand point." I lift up the car using the stock scissor jacks 3-4" from the notched "safety stand point" and put the jack stand on the point. The jack stands I have from Sears have a lifting range of 10.5" to 17.5" so I don't have to lift the car very high.
Another advantage to using a floor jack is; if the car shifts at the lifting point under load, the floor jack shifts with it because it is on wheels. A jackstand can not shift under load, just fall over.
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On the lowest setting on the jack stands (which I am assuming is 10.5") the tire is only about 1" off the ground. I think it makes it easier to slide the tire on and off with that little bit of extra clearance.
You are right about the jack though... I want to get an aluminum one that is not made in China. The all aluminum Craftsman branded was on sale at Sears last week but I looked on the box and it was made in China. Just like the one from Harbor Freight.
I live with using the stock jack because I don't have to lift the car very often at all... just when doing oil changes and I'll inspect the exhaust and undercarriage for any scrapes, rust, damage, dead cats, etc. then.
You are right about the jack though... I want to get an aluminum one that is not made in China. The all aluminum Craftsman branded was on sale at Sears last week but I looked on the box and it was made in China. Just like the one from Harbor Freight.
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Originally Posted by eldy
... just when doing oil changes and I'll inspect the exhaust and undercarriage for any scrapes, rust, damage, dead cats, etc. then. ![Smilie](https://g35driver.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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Originally Posted by PotomacG
Even 10.5" at one of the lifting points is pretty high. You need the tire "just off the ground" to change it. Not inches off the ground. Considering what a pain it is to use (read "re stow") the stock jack, I would suggest you go back to sears and invest in a floor jack. If you have room in your garage, you'll be glad you bought it.
Another advantage to using a floor jack is; if the car shifts at the lifting point under load, the floor jack shifts with it because it is on wheels. A jackstand can not shift under load, just fall over.
Another advantage to using a floor jack is; if the car shifts at the lifting point under load, the floor jack shifts with it because it is on wheels. A jackstand can not shift under load, just fall over.
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The jack in the trunk is for emergencies. I've used mine a few times, and it's starting to show signs of stress. The frame on it is starting to bend a little bit. Don't use it unless you have to. A nice hydraulic scissor jack with the little notch in it is great.
It takes less time to place a jack stand next to the jack and raise the neck on it that it does to remove one lug nut. Cheap insurance. Even if you don't stick your legs under the car to change the tire, I bet your hands wind up in a spot where they could be pinched between the fender and tire if the car fell. Definately use them anytime you're going under the car, unless it's on ramps instead of a jack.
It takes less time to place a jack stand next to the jack and raise the neck on it that it does to remove one lug nut. Cheap insurance. Even if you don't stick your legs under the car to change the tire, I bet your hands wind up in a spot where they could be pinched between the fender and tire if the car fell. Definately use them anytime you're going under the car, unless it's on ramps instead of a jack.