Vibrant Prototype exhaust system (pics)
#16
04-13-2006, 09:03 AM
It looks better than stock, but I was expecting a catback system. All those welding points scare me a bit for potential leaks.
I believe you'd have more success with a catback that can compete with Stillen. Reason is you have lots of competition in the market for the same set up. For example I have the Intense Y-pipe, OEM ('05) middy which eliminates the drone caused by the coupe midpipe in some cars, and the HKS rear section, which is an amazing sounding, looking and quality product.
Props for delivering the promise of a new system, but you ought to look into a catback.
I believe you'd have more success with a catback that can compete with Stillen. Reason is you have lots of competition in the market for the same set up. For example I have the Intense Y-pipe, OEM ('05) middy which eliminates the drone caused by the coupe midpipe in some cars, and the HKS rear section, which is an amazing sounding, looking and quality product.
Props for delivering the promise of a new system, but you ought to look into a catback.
#17
04-13-2006, 09:28 AM
Originally Posted by Chico
It looks better than stock, but I was expecting a catback system. All those welding points scare me a bit for potential leaks.
I believe you'd have more success with a catback that can compete with Stillen. Reason is you have lots of competition in the market for the same set up. For example I have the Intense Y-pipe, OEM ('05) middy which eliminates the drone caused by the coupe midpipe in some cars, and the HKS rear section, which is an amazing sounding, looking and quality product.
Props for delivering the promise of a new system, but you ought to look into a catback.
I believe you'd have more success with a catback that can compete with Stillen. Reason is you have lots of competition in the market for the same set up. For example I have the Intense Y-pipe, OEM ('05) middy which eliminates the drone caused by the coupe midpipe in some cars, and the HKS rear section, which is an amazing sounding, looking and quality product.
Props for delivering the promise of a new system, but you ought to look into a catback.
It is a catback system dude. The reason why you see the weld points is that it's a prototype. Anytime a company bulids it's first prototype exhaust system you will see all the welds. After we straighten the muffler, do the dyno testings and make sure that there are no leaks, then the system goes into production. Once the production exhaust system is made, then you won't see the welds whatsoever.
The system will be coming in 3 pieces
- Y-Pipe
- Midsection with resonator
- Rear section with Muffler
So that makes its a cat-back system
Donovan Griffith
Marketing/PR Coordinator
Vibrant Performance
310 Courtneypark Drive East
Mississauga, ON L5T 2S5
T:905-564-2808, x277 F:905-564-8653
dongriffith@vibrantpower.com
#18
04-13-2006, 09:31 AM
Originally Posted by Gsedan35
Nismo managed to pull off power and torque gains on the dyno with their 3" 350Z system. So hearing that this system is also 3" isn't so bad, but I'd still want to see a dyno.
Donavan Griffith
Vibrant Performance
#20
04-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Originally Posted by IQ9
Oh whats the cost? Will there be a rear section only or is it a complete system?
I don't want to release a price yet, but it will be priced better than the Stillen and the Borla system!
Donavan Griffith
Vibrant Performance
#21
04-13-2006, 10:02 AM
Originally Posted by jdm4eva
Chico,
It is a catback system dude. The reason why you see the weld points is that it's a prototype. Anytime a company bulids it's first prototype exhaust system you will see all the welds. After we straighten the muffler, do the dyno testings and make sure that there are no leaks, then the system goes into production. Once the production exhaust system is made, then you won't see the welds whatsoever.
The system will be coming in 3 pieces
- Y-Pipe
- Midsection with resonator
- Rear section with Muffler
So that makes its a cat-back system
Donovan Griffith
Marketing/PR Coordinator
Vibrant Performance
310 Courtneypark Drive East
Mississauga, ON L5T 2S5
T:905-564-2808, x277 F:905-564-8653
dongriffith@vibrantpower.com
It is a catback system dude. The reason why you see the weld points is that it's a prototype. Anytime a company bulids it's first prototype exhaust system you will see all the welds. After we straighten the muffler, do the dyno testings and make sure that there are no leaks, then the system goes into production. Once the production exhaust system is made, then you won't see the welds whatsoever.
The system will be coming in 3 pieces
- Y-Pipe
- Midsection with resonator
- Rear section with Muffler
So that makes its a cat-back system
Donovan Griffith
Marketing/PR Coordinator
Vibrant Performance
310 Courtneypark Drive East
Mississauga, ON L5T 2S5
T:905-564-2808, x277 F:905-564-8653
dongriffith@vibrantpower.com
In terms of HP at the dyno you shouldn't get your hopes up too high. Most systems on these cars will yield 5 to 10 hp. Stillen claims 22 hp but if you read through this board, you'll see the dyno has only shown 7 to 9 hp at the wheels.
In any case I wish you much success and would love to hear it in person.
Last edited by Chico; 04-13-2006 at 06:46 PM.
#22
04-13-2006, 10:23 AM
Originally Posted by Chico
Maybe I'm wasn't clear. The Stillen is what we know as a "catback" as it is in the pic on the left. The one on the right is what some of us have instead of the Stillen. That's what I was hoping you'd make instead of the tradiional Y-pipe, midpipe and rear section.
In terms of HP at the dyno you shouldn't get your hopes up too high. Most systems on these cars will yield 5 to 10 hp. Stillen claims 22 hp but if you read through this board, you'll see the dyno has only shown 7 to 9 hp at the wheels.
In any case I wish you much success and would love to hear it in person.
In terms of HP at the dyno you shouldn't get your hopes up too high. Most systems on these cars will yield 5 to 10 hp. Stillen claims 22 hp but if you read through this board, you'll see the dyno has only shown 7 to 9 hp at the wheels.
In any case I wish you much success and would love to hear it in person.
In terms of HP, i'm definitely not getting my hopes up, cause I know what gains you get with exhaust systems. Most people don't realize that to get really good HP gains, you have to free up the intake side, exhaust side and also get rid of things like resonators and cats....The problem with this is that the car becomes less streetable. Unless your going to turbocharge or supercharge the VQ, the HP gains on a exhaust system will be minimal....
If you want to hear it dude, give me a call and let's hook up on the weekend so I can show you the system and I can also see you HKS axle-back system.
Donavan Griffith
Vibrant Performance
#24
04-13-2006, 03:43 PM
chico,
what you said about the stillen being what we know as a "catback" doesnt make sense. The pictures dont justify it. The only reason they look different is because the stillen is a dual catback. If Donavan was making a true dual catback i would assume that it would look something like the stillen and borla (with an X-pipe and dual resonators and piping) but since he is not making a true dual catback it isnt going to look anything like the stillen or borla, it's gonna look similar to stock minus the weight and restrictivness of the stock y-pipe, resonator, and muffler therefore it really is a "Cat-Back exhaust system"
-GP-
what you said about the stillen being what we know as a "catback" doesnt make sense. The pictures dont justify it. The only reason they look different is because the stillen is a dual catback. If Donavan was making a true dual catback i would assume that it would look something like the stillen and borla (with an X-pipe and dual resonators and piping) but since he is not making a true dual catback it isnt going to look anything like the stillen or borla, it's gonna look similar to stock minus the weight and restrictivness of the stock y-pipe, resonator, and muffler therefore it really is a "Cat-Back exhaust system"
-GP-
#26
04-13-2006, 03:52 PM
#27
04-13-2006, 05:19 PM
Originally Posted by Gdup35sedan
chico,
what you said about the stillen being what we know as a "catback" doesnt make sense. The pictures dont justify it. The only reason they look different is because the stillen is a dual catback. If Donavan was making a true dual catback i would assume that it would look something like the stillen and borla (with an X-pipe and dual resonators and piping) but since he is not making a true dual catback it isnt going to look anything like the stillen or borla, it's gonna look similar to stock minus the weight and restrictivness of the stock y-pipe, resonator, and muffler therefore it really is a "Cat-Back exhaust system"
-GP-
what you said about the stillen being what we know as a "catback" doesnt make sense. The pictures dont justify it. The only reason they look different is because the stillen is a dual catback. If Donavan was making a true dual catback i would assume that it would look something like the stillen and borla (with an X-pipe and dual resonators and piping) but since he is not making a true dual catback it isnt going to look anything like the stillen or borla, it's gonna look similar to stock minus the weight and restrictivness of the stock y-pipe, resonator, and muffler therefore it really is a "Cat-Back exhaust system"
-GP-
His definition is from each cat back... in other words true dual.
The generally accepted definition of cat back is..
that point from which the aftermarket exhaust replaces the OEM;
from the cats.... to... the back
The design from A to B can be anything.....
#29
04-13-2006, 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by inTgr8r
I know what Chico means...
His definition is from each cat back... in other words true dual.
The generally accepted definition of cat back is..
that point from which the aftermarket exhaust replaces the OEM;
from the cats.... to... the back
The design from A to B can be anything.....
His definition is from each cat back... in other words true dual.
The generally accepted definition of cat back is..
that point from which the aftermarket exhaust replaces the OEM;
from the cats.... to... the back
The design from A to B can be anything.....
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04-13-2006, 06:50 PM
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