BALex you are going to find you owe more then it is worth. Check out www.kbb.com but my 2003.5 has 54,000 and in excellent condition with NAV and the blue book says its worth about $18K trade in and checking out similar G's for sale retail they are averaging around $21K.

Now get this I stopped in a dealer yesterday that said they would give me only $15K for it. I laughed and said in so many words you're nuts. They said the biggest issue was it wasn't an AWD which in the NE is what people want.

 

That REALLY blows. So much for Infiniti more or less holding the line on pricing.

 

Thanks for the link. The book is at $23,610 for excellent and $22,275 for good. My car is in nearly excellent condition in my humble opinion, fortunate to use it as my second car. I've checked recent ads (up to $23,500) for fully loaded '03's and dealer lots ($24,700) here in N. California. BB Trade In Value was listed at $20,825 and 19,655.
I'm too far under to try and trade it, but will probably pay it down to $22k and see what happens in the classifieds.

 

We just got a truckload in today...Journey Premium is $900 less than the '06. Two already sold. G35 Journey Premium Nav Tech Wood Splashguards is only $38,740 MSRP.

 

The loaded sport is going to be under $40K. On your note about depreciation, the 335 sedan and the G35 sedan have the exact same residual in the ALG (American Leasing Guide), which is an impartial source that the non-captive lenders use for leases. I guess I am confused as to where you are coming up with the fact that the G is going to lose 10% more of its sticker price than the BMW.

 

I'm sorry, but I need to clarify something I feel is an error in your statement. I'm not debating the validity of the G35S vs. the 335i, just in your comparison of the cars and prices. You mentioned a fully loaded G35S for $41k against the 335i for $44.7k. However, the fully loaded G35S includes Navigation, Intelligent Cruise Control, and Paddle Shifters, which when added to the BMW is an additional $4,400. Add that to the the $3.7k marginal difference you mentioned and you get the $8.1k other people were making as the difference.

Whether all those options are necessary or not is a different question, but it's not an apples to apples comparison w/o it.

 

I stand corrected, I looked at the pricing and it's not 3.7k, it's 8.7k, apples to apples. 8.7k is where it should be, should have used my common sense and realized it's not that simple to decide to buy a BMW. It should be a reasonably hard decision to make when we're talking about 35k+ for a car....

 

I'll take your word on the ALG. The thing is this--it's common-knowledge that a 2k6 G35 brand-new is going for roughly $1000 under invoice. If that deal wasn't the case at the beginning of the year, or in 2k5, that money is certainly lost to those purchasers. Again, if you say the Infiniti and BMW have the same residuals, I'll take your word for it. If I had a 2k5 G35 it would certainly make me feel good, unlike knowing that 2k6 people are buying for a grand under invoice.

 

The 06 sedans are going for $2500 below invoice.

 

What the 2006 model is going for doesn't matter. The last few cars of model cycle will always sell well into the tissue (Accord, 3 series, etc.) I was just saying that every non-captive bank in america will be using the same residual for the G35 and the 335, so his statement that the G35 depreciates faster than the 335 is dead wrong. The real losers in this are the IS350 buyers who give up 7% to the 335 and the G35 right off the bat and think they are getting a real car that can compete all-around with the G and 3 series.

 

Agreed. I want at least $2,000 off of MSRP.

 

+1 I can't imagine myself get rip off by the dealership. The invoice price and msrp have at least 3500 differences, fully loaded. Plus dealership get incentives and holdbacks, no f... way I will pay premium on it, JMO

 

On 9/22/06, (during the first month the '07 BMW 335i Coupe was released), I negotiated a $2k discount off MSRP (which is still $2,180 over invoice ) on an almost fully loaded $51,990 BMW 335i Coupe, paying $49,990 for one of the hottest new cars for '07 (G35 Sedan being another). While other ppl say they cannot get a dime off MSRP on a 335i (mainly b/c the BMW dealers have ppl lined up paying full MSRP...stupid consumers! ), I say it's all about doing your research, shopping around, and knowing how to negotiate and "work the deal" (just like the dealers do). You should think of it as a game b/c they do. I also made my dealer throw in window tint at n/c and alum. pedals at n/c (the 335i doesn't come w/ alum. pedals std...dealer installed option).

Now, if all this is possible with a hot car that came out 9/1/06, then I think it should be more than likely that anybody should be able to get $$ off MSRP on the new '07 G35 Sedan as well, even if it's just as hot (or hotter) as the BMW 335i. The dealers won't want to budge at first, but I think with a little persistence and a lot of knowledge, it can be done. You can always try the "Ok...no money off the G35 Sedan. Hmmm, well, then I guess you've forced me to go across the street to the BMW dealer to compare the BMW 335i..." See if that gets their attention.

 

Finallyyyyyyy, the pricing!! Well here's what it looks like for me...

Garnet Ember G35x
Premium Package (G35x)
Navigation Package

Grand Total- $38,200 AWESOME!!!

 

I have been informing dealerships about the available options on the G35 and the pricing before they get the info to me. I believe they know I'm not paying MSRP for one of their cars so as long as supply isn't short; I'm going to get 1-1.5K off MSRP. But I mean, if the dealership has people lined up to pay MSRP, there's just no reason to sell the car to me and I understand that.