G35 Sedan V36 2007- 08 Discussion about the 2nd Generation G35 Sedan 2007 - 08

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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The rumor of the coupe having a larger engine with more hp makes me hesitant to buy now. Remember when the coupe first came out it had more hp than the sedan, but they eventually put the same motor in the sedan. I'll just wait to see what happens.
Plus a new [x]-speed auto [if your into autos] which is sorely needed.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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BTW - the 335i [sedan] will be available in xi trim Feb '07 [but not w/the sport package]. You are correct about fantastic lease rates on the 335i - this is what I was quoted this weekend:

'07 335i sport sedan:

- $51,496.00 [this was w/all options]
- 3 yr, 45K w/$4000.00 down
- $583.00 month w/scheduled maintenance.

WOW...
This was meant for JWangSDC. I thought he had originally posted the lease deal. However, if his numbers are correct then it does show that this lease deal was not as great as you originally thought. My guess is that it is a decent lease and JWangSDC numbers are not realistic.

Interesting, this doesn’t look like such a great deal if you price this out with the numbers that JWangSDC stated in this thread!

https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...=1#post1513777

Originally Posted by JWangSDC
Wake up call, the G is the best value when bought, not leased. BMW runs .001x and 62% residual values for a 3 year lease.

So let’s run the numbers.

- 36 months with 15K per year
- $4000 down. I still don’t like putting money down on a lease but whatever floats your boat.
- $51,496.00 MSRP Let’s say a selling price of $49,000. I think that is a reasonable discount that you wouldn’t have to do much begging to get.
- Residual .0019 which you claim is normal for BMW.
- WOW 62% residual! You really think you would get that. If so then this is going to be a sweetheart of a lease!

So you thought $583.00 month w/scheduled maintenance was a good deal.
If you run the numbers above through the calculator below then you come up with $547.47 per month with 7.5% sales Tax included. So I guess your $583 per month was not such a good deal after all or your lease numbers were a figment of your imagination. I rest my case!

http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm
 

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
Wake up call, the G is the best value when bought, not leased.
Not sure what your point is here considering your statement above; the figures l listed are for a lease not a purchase - which again clearly demonstrate which lease is the better value, at least for this month. Also, I'm not sure why one would roll taxes into a lease, that contributed [0] to the equity of the vehicle, but that's you choice as well.
 

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Interesting, this doesn’t look like such a great deal if you price this out with the numbers you gave me in this thread!

https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...=1#post1513777

Originally Posted by JWangSDC
Wake up call, the G is the best value when bought, not leased. BMW runs .001x and 62% residual values for a 3 year lease.

So let’s run the numbers.

- 36 months with 15K per year
- $4000 down. I still don’t like putting money down on a lease but whatever floats your boat.
- $51,496.00 MSRP Let’s say a selling price of $49,000. I think that is a reasonable discount that you wouldn’t have to do much begging to get.
- Residual .0019 which you claim is normal for BMW.
- WOW 62% residual! You really think you would get that. If so then this is going to be a sweetheart of a lease!

So you thought $583.00 month w/scheduled maintenance was a good deal.
If you run the numbers above through the calculator below then you come up with $547.47 per month with 7.5% sales Tax included. So I guess your $583 per month was not such a good deal after all or your lease numbers were a figment of your imagination. I rest my case!

http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm

good heads up for the guy.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RLampke
Not sure what your point is here considering your statement above; the figures l listed are for a lease not a purchase - which again clearly demonstrate which lease is the better value, at least for this month. Also, I'm not sure why one would roll taxes into a lease, that contributed [0] to the equity of the vehicle, but that's you choice as well.
I thought JWangSDC had posted that deal. Sorry that was my mistake. However, JWangSDC posted some pretty extreme lease numbers for the BMW 335i that would have made your offer about $45/month to high. I was was just trying to show that those numbers were probably not realistic.

Also, your post attributes this quote to me. I didn't say that. JWangSDC did.

Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
Wake up call, the G is the best value when bought, not leased.

I can think of one example were a leased G35 is better. If you plan on selling your car less than 3 years after you bought it then you would probably be way upside down if you bought it. You can just swap it for an 07 if you had leased it and you play your cards right. That is what I am going to do.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
Also, your post attributes this quote to me. I didn't say that. JWangSDC did.

Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
Wake up call, the G is the best value when bought, not leased.
My mistake as well.

These where the numbers that were fed to me; I do get a preferred lease rate being a previous BMW owner and the taxable rate is different that what you using. Other than that I think it's attractive - and like I said, I'm sure the IFS will be offering much better leasing rates next month.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
So let’s run the numbers.

- 36 months with 15K per year
- $4000 down. I still don’t like putting money down on a lease but whatever floats your boat.
- $51,496.00 MSRP Let’s say a selling price of $49,000. I think that is a reasonable discount that you wouldn’t have to do much begging to get.
- Residual .0019 which you claim is normal for BMW.
- WOW 62% residual! You really think you would get that. If so then this is going to be a sweetheart of a lease!

So you thought $583.00 month w/scheduled maintenance was a good deal.
If you run the numbers above through the calculator below then you come up with $547.47 per month with 7.5% sales Tax included. So I guess your $583 per month was not such a good deal after all or your lease numbers were a figment of your imagination. I rest my case!

http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm
The numbers I just saw on edmunds lease are as follows:

2007 BMW 335 Series 335i Sedan
24 mo/15k mi = Residual 71% / .00150 Money Factor
36 mo/15k mi = Residual 61% / .00150 Money Factor

These are some very nice rates and residuals for a just released vehicle.


To assess whether or not the the $583 is a good deal, you need to know how much of the $4000 is going to cap reduction. If your municipality has a 7% tax rate, I come up with a sales price of roughly $49000 and cap reduction of $2000 to obtain a monthly payment of around $583.

All in all, not a bad deal, but not a crazy good one either. It is the money factor and residual that is making it attractive.

One thing is for sure, if a leasing customer has to choose between a G35 or 335i, you can take the value proposition of the G out of the game. Their lease payments are going to be about the same given IFS current rates.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 01:12 PM
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All in all, not a bad deal, but not a crazy good one either. It is the money factor and residual that is making it attractive.

One thing is for sure, if a leasing customer has to choose between a G35 or 335i, you can take the value proposition of the G out of the game. Their lease payments are going to be about the same given IFS current rates.
As you said, being the 335i is new to the market, it's not bad at all. As far as a crazy deal, now when have you even seen one on a car like these
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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True - not likely to see invoice + 500 on any of these cars anytime soon. One can wish though.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd
This was meant for JWangSDC. I thought he had originally posted the lease deal. However, if his numbers are correct then it does show that this lease deal was not as great as you originally thought. My guess is that it is a decent lease and JWangSDC numbers are not realistic.

Interesting, this doesn’t look like such a great deal if you price this out with the numbers that JWangSDC stated in this thread!

https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...=1#post1513777

Originally Posted by JWangSDC
Wake up call, the G is the best value when bought, not leased. BMW runs .001x and 62% residual values for a 3 year lease.

So let’s run the numbers.

- 36 months with 15K per year
- $4000 down. I still don’t like putting money down on a lease but whatever floats your boat.
- $51,496.00 MSRP Let’s say a selling price of $49,000. I think that is a reasonable discount that you wouldn’t have to do much begging to get.
- Residual .0019 which you claim is normal for BMW.
- WOW 62% residual! You really think you would get that. If so then this is going to be a sweetheart of a lease!

So you thought $583.00 month w/scheduled maintenance was a good deal.
If you run the numbers above through the calculator below then you come up with $547.47 per month with 7.5% sales Tax included. So I guess your $583 per month was not such a good deal after all or your lease numbers were a figment of your imagination. I rest my case!

http://www.leaseguide.com/calc.htm


All my lease estimates are OUT THE DOOR. I'm assuming you do not put anything down. So you're telling me 4k down with $547/month is better than $583 OUT THE DOOR? LOLOLOL you are a moron.

And the poster above me has just confirmed the same residual/money factors as I was speaking of. 62% and .00150 MF...so you are a MORON for questioning that widely available information.


Infiniti's G35 sedan currently is at 57/58% and .00231 for 36 months. Do you realize how far of a cry that is from 62% and .00150 ? You are a moron because you do not understand how that affects the lease and need to re-do every calculation with that link.

You are a moron...$583/month out the door with free maintenance is a GREAT deal.

Finally you use $51K for the BMW and 36K for the G35/37 coupe. LOLOLOL. You are a moron. And just for your information, the $51k price was quoted by someone else, not by me. I would never have quoted such a high price because I'm 100% certain I could get a good deal on it the week it came out.

I still stand by what I said, $583/month with free maintanence is a good deal. (This is 36months/15K miles year).

And that number I pulled out of thin air...I did the calculations in my head in about 10s...If I were to write it out, sure I could give you exact numbers. mpgxsvcd please close your mouth and leave the board. I am being sure to quote your postings so you cannot hide your ignorance and misinformation.
 

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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All my lease estimates are OUT THE DOOR. I'm assuming you do not put anything down. So you're telling me 4k down with $547/month is better than $583 OUT THE DOOR? LOLOLOL you are a moron.

And the poster above me has just confirmed the same residual/money factors as I was speaking of. 62% and .00150 MF...so you are a MORON for questioning that widely available information.


Infiniti's G35 sedan currently is at 57/58% and .00231 for 36 months. Do you realize how far of a cry that is from 62% and .00150 ? You are a moron because you do not understand how that affects the lease and need to re-do every calculation with that link.

You are a moron...$583/month out the door with free maintenance is a GREAT deal.

Finally you use $51K for the BMW and 36K for the G35/37 coupe. LOLOLOL. You are a moron. And just for your information, the $51k price was quoted by someone else, not by me. I would never have quoted such a high price because I'm 100% certain I could get a good deal on it the week it came out.

I still stand by what I said, $583/month with free maintanence is a good deal. (This is 36months/15K miles year).

And that number I pulled out of thin air...I did the calculations in my head in about 10s...If I were to write it out, sure I could give you exact numbers. mpgxsvcd please close your mouth and leave the board. I am being sure to quote your postings so you cannot hide your ignorance and misinformation.
Wow - I love assassinations
 
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RLampke
BTW - the 335i [sedan] will be available in xi trim Feb '07 [but not w/the sport package]. You are correct about fantastic lease rates on the 335i - this is what I was quoted this weekend:

'07 335i sport sedan:

- $51,496.00 [this was w/all options]
- 3 yr, 45K w/$4000.00 down
- $583.00 month w/scheduled maintenance.

WOW...
In all fairness, this was the original deal posted by RLampke.

So yes, $583/mth OTD would be an amazing deal, but this deal is $4000 down with $583/mth. Still a good deal.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Wow - I love assassinations

Me too, but only because some people deserve it.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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Exactly, I plan on writing off my lease payments.

how do you go about writing off payments???
 
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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how do you go about writing off payments???
I'm guessing he's a small business owner.
 
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