you've got to be kidding me? Even with 3 subs how come the BOSE system doesn't deliver bass that packs a punch? Anyone actually like the "studio on wheels"?

 

This has already been beaten to death.

They got some recording engineers to "tune" the new system who thought they knew exactly what bass and treble levels we were all supposed to be happy with and just so we could not disagree with them, they made it impossible to adjust the bass in the system beyond what they decided was "accurate".

Recording engineers everywhere cheered that the unwashed masses had finally been put in their place. Everyone would now be forced to listen to music the way the engineers liked it. Flat!

Those who disagreed were called "pedestrian", "lowbrow", etc.

 

The 10in. speakers aren't true "subwoofers"; they are more like midbass woofers which is why they don't have the true "thump" that most people associate with the low-end.

The purpose and goal of the system is SQ not SPL.

 

haven't you ever heard this saying.................


"NO HIGHS.......NO LOWS..........SOUNDS LIKE A BOSE!"

bose tends to focus on midrange frequencies. Listen to their home audio stuff, it is very vocally intensive.

 

The car audio industry has known for most of your lifetimes that a flat response doesn't work in a car environment as road noise tends to muffle the lower frequencies. Although many youths "overcompensate" with the boom-boom, it is very typical to give the low end a bit of boost to overcome the rumble from driving.

I guess the Bose engineers tuned this thing while parked in a lab somewhere? I'll give them that the bass does sound good (if a tad weak for my tastes) when there is absolutely no noise, but just the engine idling will cover up what bass is there...

I'll prescribe a Boston 10" pro (there is a 2ohm version!) and call us in the morning to see if it makes a dent in your headache. Perhaps your case calls for something a bit stronger!

 

A lot of people do like it, I know I do.

https://g35driver.com/forums/showthr...highlight=Poll

 

Bloseeeeeeeeeee

 

I have bose in my house and yeah yur right about that "not having that wall shakin bass". But u know what, I like it cause it sounds crisp!! Good highs, mids, and just enough bass that it doesn't overpower the rest of the frequencies. IMO. I like BOSE

 

Since we are into the what does BOSE stand for, let me add:

Blatantly overpriced sound enclosures

I bought their crappy 3-2-1 home system. Sucks more than the girls who hang out on highway 99 in Everett, WA.

The car system however is ok. The only mistake Infiniti made? Hyping it.

 

Guys-

<...puts his flame suit on...>

Bose, Infiniti and ALL other carmakers & audio makers will hype up what they have to sell. It's just marketing at work. And I for one have heard more than enough of the Bose debate. So please let's not have this thread turn into yet another thread about Bose.....

 

^^ Couldn't agree more.

 

I agree.

This might help....but there' so much fanning going on it's hard to keep those flames down.

 

You forgot 'BOY OUR SPEAKERS are EXPENSIVE" &
" BOX ONLY SOUND EXTRA"

 

Really. What were their names? Where was the tuning done?
The tuning was done by a couple of Bose engineers. There were multiple iterations of fine tuning that utilized the input from a team of Bose and Infiniti experts (like Thomas Crahan). Some of these people are accomplished musicians, and some have recording engineering expertise, but it was not tuned by a bunch of recording engineers.

It's amazing how much a person can know without really knowing anything.
I'm sorry this is coming off so offensively, but I have a problem with people who state opinion as fact. The G35 system was tuned to what we and Infiniti felt was the most accurate and pleasing sound. The audio controls are there to allow people to adjust the system away from our target.

Again, a "IMHO" would have been nice ... If I wanted to restrict the system to what I deemed accurate, there would be no tone controls, and no fader/balance control. But, I don't think that's the right thing to do. The G35 system has preamp controls (like bass/treble) because there are many legitimate situations where a user might want to tweak the audio characteristics. If the range of these controls is insufficient to satisfy you ... it's unfortunate.

Have you measured the system? How do you know it is flat? Do you know how much adjustment is available in the tone controls? How much is enough, in your opinion? How about +20dB of bass boost? How about +30dB? Do you understand what it implies with respect to overall system performance?

Never by Bose. Never, AFAIK, by Infiniti

John Feng
Manager, acoustic system engineering department
Automotive Division
Bose Corporation

 

Thank you very much for using the word, "guess" in your post.

In point of fact, the vehicle was definitely driven during the tuning process.
I can state this as a fact because I was one of the people driving a late proto G35 sedan around making audio evaluations.

As has been discussed previously (in this forum). Tuning the bass response can never be done optimally because there is no 1 correct background noise situation. Some people live in places where roads are smooth and quiet. Other people drive really fast (where wind noise starts to be a concern). If the bass is adjusted to the point where it satisfies you at one MPH on one type of road surface, it's likely that you'll be unsatisfied at other speeds and on different roads. A solution to this problem is a dynamic adjustment of the system tuning based on the background noise in the car at any particular instant in time. The M45 system has something that attempts to do this (Bose Audiopilot).

John Feng