http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...2007_g35x.html

The guy really liked the G, but still was raving about the engine in the 335i. I'm just sick and tired of everyone saying how GREAT the the TWIN TURBO 335i is. They need the twins just to get CLOSE to the NA VQ35HR. Wait until we get twins. Then we'll see whose talking! My G35x LOADED was ~ $40,500 (msrp). Equivalent 335i, was close to $50k (by the way, no AWD!). Gimme the G and the extra $7,000 in my pocket!

 

Dude, what are you smoking? Your statement is as crazy as saying the Porsche need twin turbo to get close to a Z06. The fact is, the 335 is faster than the G. Also the 335 can be made much faster for very little money. BMW stick w/ 3.0L and add TT. While Nissan added another .5L of displacement. Your comment about TT G is like saying, just wait till BMW add another .5L of displacement. The fact is, it's not here, so how can you even guess what it put out. One other thing, the GT-R will come w/ a VQ37HR-TT, lets just hope they put a detuned of that engine in the G. That extra $7k goes to the BMW name, don't u know that by now?

 

in truth, i love my 06 g coupe...and am very seriosly looking into an 07 sedan. BUT i am also looking into an 07 335i sedan....i will tell you that your not just paying for the name. I drove both cars, besides it being faster then the G, which is understandable because it is a tt vs a n/a motor. On other points though, the car feels more solid, not saying the G doesnt..but the beemer seemed to hold its composure better when pushed. If your buying the car the G still is a better buy, but its actually strange because being equipped the way i want it, the beemer is actually 9k more then the G, but actually leases better the G.

Both are great cars, but dont say your tired of the engine being raved on. It's not only because how powerfull it is...its also how smooth the power delivery is given, and the engine has a really nice note to it + it doesnt give out this almost nasty vibration at WOT that i felt in the G.

Tuff deceision between the two i must say.

 

When did Nissan add another .5L? Hasn't the G35 been a 3.5 liter since they started making them? All I'm saying is the G is NA whereas the 335i has TT. It's apples to oranges IMO. The 328i is the natural comparison to the G. 328i - 230HP. G35 - 306. Which do you think is faster? NOW lets start adding twin turbos. If BMW can turn the NA 3.0L into (conservitively) 300HP, what do you think can be done with a NA engine STARTING at 306HP?

I just don't think comparing a 335i with the G is a fair comparison. I'm not bashing BMW, it's the people comparing (IMO) two different classes of cars that bothers me.

By the way, don't you think we're paying something extra for the Infiniti name??

 

^^Moose, I understand where you are coming from and it seems that the G35 Sedan / 328i comparison would make more sense, but that will never happen. The G35 doesn't come with another engine variant and critics always compare the most powerful variant in a given range. So that would be the 335i against the G35. I agree, I don't think it should be that way but if the coupe, come April, has a 3.7L engine putting out 330hp...then the G35 sedan / 335i comparisons will cease to exist.

 

Well I personally think the 335I is crap. Its the size of a honda civic, the interior is from 1985 and ugly, and there is definite lag when accelerating from a dead stop. It didnt feel much faster, if at all, then the g (when g is in manumatic mode with vdc off), costs way more, is tiny, and I would never trust BMW, which makes some of the least reliable cars on the road, with a twin turbo. Thats just me though.

 

Good write up for the X. Thanks for sharing.

 

What I admire about the german cars (and I am seeing it with Japanese cars as well) is their continued refinement. Year after year they improve their cars. BMW continues to refine their cars to make them better (stiffer, more powerful, better handling, etc). That's what makes a great car manufacturer. Nissan and Toyota are doing the same thing and it's paying off for them.

It's not the engine I'm tired of hearing about (I love hearing about ANY and ALL engines ), but the comparison. I'm not saying that it HAS to be a NA to NA comparison, but lets also look at price. The 328i is far closer to the G in price than the 335i.

I can't say that I've noticed any nasty vibration in the G at WOT (and believe me, I've had it a WOT A LOT! ), but I certainly can't compare it to the 335i since I haven't driven one.

 

This is only true if you are looking at out the door (buying) prices of a 335i vs a G35 for a purchase. If you take into account the free maint plan that BMW has, this brings the price closer.

Also, if you are looking at leasing, then the 335 is the about the same as a G35, if not less. I was looking at these two cars and I really wanted to get the G since I currently have an '04 G, but I went with the 335 because the cost deal was better.

For the record, I am doing a 15k/36 mth lease on the 335 for 523 per month. I didn't put anything down. Also the car has Prem, Cold, Sport, and Metallic paint so it's not a stripper.

- SR

 

strange...because interior rooms in both cars are actually very comparable...i believe the G sedan wins by a little more then an inch in the front...and the beemer by around the same thing for the rear...i am talkin legroom...but i know the interior dimensions are very close all around for both cars. When you look at the car though the 3 does appear singnificantly smaller then the G. But its actually not.

And as far as lag and not feeling faster, there is def not any lag, especially for TT, and the car is 100% faster without a doubt.

 

Well the dimensions are not correct.. The G has more room for sure. My head rubs the headliner in the 335 where there is plenty of room in the G. There is also more width in the G to spread out.

 

There definitely IS lag. From a dead stop the car I drove with 100 miles on it sputtered, jerked, and finally shot off with a rush of acceleration. There is lag for sure on the 335. The sales guy tried to say it was just because it was cold, but the whole test drive it kept doing it.

Also I agree that the interior dimensions are way way higher in the G then the 335I, get them side by side and sit in them both, youll feel it. You can actually use the back seat in the G.

Im not attacking you personally, I just dont think the 335 deserves as much praise as it has recieved. Also its not that much faster in real world driving. Yes with a chip you can make it way faster, but stock it isnt. And I wouldnt mess with a chip anyway when I promise the 335's will have widespread problems as is. Hey, its BMW. Get used to enterprise rent a cars.

 

I test drove one and experienced no lag even w/ 3 people in the car. The car pulls much smoother, quieter, and faster than my 04 G35c 6MT. It also feel much more nimble too. If you don't plan to mod your car, then it really make no difference to you then whether it's factory Turbo or NA. For me, that's the main reason why I like the 335.
I didn't mean Nissan up .5L in the G. I mean they upped .5L from the original VQ30DE in the Maxima and I30. Does it really matter how they achieve the power? Are you saying the 911 Turbo is not the F430's competitor because one is V8 NA and the other is H6 TT? It's just different way the company decide to achieve a certain power for a certain car at certain price point. When I shop for my next car, the G35 will be cross shopped w/ the 335. You pay more for the BMW badge than the Infiniti badge. Which I think is the major reason for the price difference. Same w/ Lexus vs Benz.

I don't know how much the VQ35/37HR will make when they slap the TT and detune it for the G, but I don't really car as long as the potential for more cheap power are there.

 

We are comparing the 07G, huge difference. Glad to hear the one you drove had no lag. I think its a 50/50 shot from what Ive read on various forums.

 

Lets keep this on topic please.