intelligent cruise control and Valentine 1
#16
Originally Posted by treacherous
Interesting... so ICC can potentially set off laser radar detectors?
Anyway, I really do like the ICC feature. It's wonderful for long car trips. If I were to use ICC, I would only be going a little above the speed limit (maybe 10MPH above the limit), in which case worrying about speeding is not really a big issue. If I really do want to speed, then I wouldn't be using ICC anyway. I just don't know if ICC would set off my detector. So far, I haven't noticed any issued when using ICC and my detector.
One more thing.... I've heard folks comment about the aesthetics of the ICC. IMO, that's no big deal. You (and definitely most anyone else) will not even notice it, and having ICC is definitely worth any aesthetic issues.
#17
While many people are worried about ICC affecting their radar detectors, the bigger concern is for those of us interesting in active Laser Jammers.
I have witnessed ICC setting off a laser alert on Escort Passport x50 radar detector. It is however, a rare occurance since most people mount their RDs high up and ICC shoots laser low to the ground. Your RD would hafta pick up a reflection of the laser at just the right angle.
Laser jammers are mounted on the same level as ICC, and "blocks" laser beams from touching ur car, which is why they are used to prevent a LIDAR gun from obtaining a speed reading on ur car.
If a laser is constantly being emitted from the ICC unit, it would get rather annoying for people with laser jammers.
It's already been reported to be the case by one member on here, hopefully we can get another to confirm.
Looks like I'll just be disabling ICC, which is also why I'll be interested in removing it somehow.
I have witnessed ICC setting off a laser alert on Escort Passport x50 radar detector. It is however, a rare occurance since most people mount their RDs high up and ICC shoots laser low to the ground. Your RD would hafta pick up a reflection of the laser at just the right angle.
Laser jammers are mounted on the same level as ICC, and "blocks" laser beams from touching ur car, which is why they are used to prevent a LIDAR gun from obtaining a speed reading on ur car.
If a laser is constantly being emitted from the ICC unit, it would get rather annoying for people with laser jammers.
It's already been reported to be the case by one member on here, hopefully we can get another to confirm.
Looks like I'll just be disabling ICC, which is also why I'll be interested in removing it somehow.
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Is lazer/lidar a big problem where you are? I drove through FL today and had ample time to slow down when I got blasted for the second time ever with my almost 6 year old V1 (mounted low to dash). As for the sensor, it is on all the time and with it is mounted virtually touching the dash it goes off maybe once every 10 days. I think the falses are caused mostly by reflecting off of vehicles in front of me than anything else. One of these days I'll get a new V1 and hardwire it and put this one in the 4R but eh, this works for now. It saved me 3 times today so I know its still working!
As for taking out the ICC... I think your crazy... I wonder what would happen if you put a black cover over the sensor. If anything when you have your jammers you could blame it on the ICC. The G does a MUCH BETTER job of controlling the beams compared to the bigger siblings. Those things just throw it out in every direction. I can't tell you how many times an FX has made my V1 false... I wouldn't jump the gun on ripping it out until its your last resort. Then you also have to ask yourself is it worth ripping up a brand new car? It might be in your area, but it sure isn't around here...
Cheers!
As for taking out the ICC... I think your crazy... I wonder what would happen if you put a black cover over the sensor. If anything when you have your jammers you could blame it on the ICC. The G does a MUCH BETTER job of controlling the beams compared to the bigger siblings. Those things just throw it out in every direction. I can't tell you how many times an FX has made my V1 false... I wouldn't jump the gun on ripping it out until its your last resort. Then you also have to ask yourself is it worth ripping up a brand new car? It might be in your area, but it sure isn't around here...
Cheers!
#19
Originally Posted by randman
I don't know if that's true, but if it is, that can be advantageous. Folks in front of you who have a radar detector will slow down, and you can pass them more easily.
Per another post, my V1 is mounted high up, beside my mirror.
#21
Originally Posted by logik05se
i cant understand how street racing is frowned upon if you do it on a big empty road....but theyll tell you how to install illegal laser jammers on this forum lma0
My guess is that they might be illegal in some states, but then again so is speeding.
#22
Originally Posted by Ahujadaddy
Laser jammers are mounted on the same level as ICC, and "blocks" laser beams from touching ur car, which is why they are used to prevent a LIDAR gun from obtaining a speed reading on ur car.
If a laser is constantly being emitted from the ICC unit, it would get rather annoying for people with laser jammers.
It's already been reported to be the case by one member on here, hopefully we can get another to confirm.
If a laser is constantly being emitted from the ICC unit, it would get rather annoying for people with laser jammers.
It's already been reported to be the case by one member on here, hopefully we can get another to confirm.
So the potential problem with jammers and ICC is that the laser pulse from ICC would go out, bounce off a car and come back... then the jammer would pick that up as being a threat and it would send out shifted laser pulses. That in turn would bounce off the cars and come back, and ICC would freak out because it doesn't know what the hell is going on.
Most up close shifting will cause a jam-to-gun depending on the source and the jammer. The gun is actually unable to get any speed reading from the target and will either display "- - -" or it will jam altogether and throw an error code. I can't see how either one of those is a good thing for ICC...
But who knows... maybe ICC works on its own crazy frequency that doesn't interfere with police LIDAR or with jammers. Should be easy enough to confirm if we can get the cars together...
#23
Originally Posted by G35Now!
I know you were just commenting and didn't mean it, but my feelings on this are pretty close to FU. Having the loud-*** laser detector go off a few times a minute with another Infiniti behind you is REALLY annoying.
Per another post, my V1 is mounted high up, beside my mirror.
Per another post, my V1 is mounted high up, beside my mirror.
#24
Originally Posted by viguera
Actually jammers don't keep lasers from touching your car... what they do is they sense the incoming laser and send out a shifted pulse to confuse the source.
But who knows... maybe ICC works on its own crazy frequency that doesn't interfere with police LIDAR or with jammers. Should be easy enough to confirm if we can get the cars together...
But who knows... maybe ICC works on its own crazy frequency that doesn't interfere with police LIDAR or with jammers. Should be easy enough to confirm if we can get the cars together...
I was reading up on this awhile ago, and remember confirming that the ICC uses the same pulse rate(?) as a particular LIDAR gun. I'll hafta try and find the source again... does 24 pps sound right? I think that's what ICC is. Not sure, if i find it i'll post.
#25
Originally Posted by Ahujadaddy
You're right, i was just trying to put it in layman terms by saying it wont "touch" ur car. But you explained it well and more accurately.
I was reading up on this awhile ago, and remember confirming that the ICC uses the same pulse rate(?) as a particular LIDAR gun. I'll hafta try and find the source again... does 24 pps sound right? I think that's what ICC is. Not sure, if i find it i'll post.
I was reading up on this awhile ago, and remember confirming that the ICC uses the same pulse rate(?) as a particular LIDAR gun. I'll hafta try and find the source again... does 24 pps sound right? I think that's what ICC is. Not sure, if i find it i'll post.
Remember that at least the Blinder is adaptive... for the first 30 seconds after it receives power, the laser filters are disabled and any IR pulse will set it off. They do this so you can test if it's working and for those 30 seconds even a remote control IR emitter will set it off.
After that though, the IR detector sends the info about the laser pulse to the control unit, and the computer calculates the best jamming pulse to send out through the IR transmitters.
So it's possible that any type of laser signal will get shifted and returned... I don't know for sure but I think field tests are gonna be needed...
#27
Originally Posted by GoofyG
sorry if this has been asked, I couldn't find it on a search.
There has been a question in the coupe section over weather or not the ICC will interfere with a V1? and if it does can you disengage the ICC. the same question has been asked about jammers.
For those that currently have ICC, do you know the answers?
thanks
There has been a question in the coupe section over weather or not the ICC will interfere with a V1? and if it does can you disengage the ICC. the same question has been asked about jammers.
For those that currently have ICC, do you know the answers?
thanks
However, after dealing with Ohio today, I wouldn't turn off the laser warning - ICC could probably just be disengaged by switching the fuse or something rudimentary like that, but personally I like the peace of mind that preview braking offers.
Also, I have the V1 mounted to driver's side sun visor using a piece of a FedEx box to keep it level and an 8" Invisicord to the mirror power harness. It's the latest rev.
Last edited by wavelengths; 05-26-2007 at 10:10 PM.
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