Track: 1/4mi this time.
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From: Murfreesboro, TN
Track: 1/4mi this time.
Well, just got back from a nice day at the 1/4 mile track at beech bend in bowling green kentucky. It was rented out for the day by www.tennesspeed.net. it's an online forum for mainly middle tennessee people with various interests in cars and racing. Had a good turnout of 200 or so people. fastest of the day was a 1200 hp turboed big block foxbody mustang that was just inside the 6's. slowest was 43 seconds an ams evo MR that blew out the clutch and had to baby it to the finish. lol
My best:
reaction-.163
60ft----2.199
1/8mi---9.169
1/8mi---79.7
1/4mi---14.095
1/4mi---101.94
ran 8 times and had 2-14.0's and 6-14.1's. also had 2-100mph runs and 6-101 mph runs.
there was an 07 g35sport 6mt there, i think his best was when we lined up together .
on my slip it says he had a 2.1 60ft....9.1@78 1/8....14.12@99 1/4. not bad. we were discussing his times(high 90's mph and mid 14's times). Its difficult to launch the 6mt without wheel hop and he was doing the best he could. also, he drives the car like a grandma everywhere, so we agreed that the ecm has things running a lil slower due to the driving style. Either way, i and almost everyone else was supprised by the G. It was doing really well.
My best:
reaction-.163
60ft----2.199
1/8mi---9.169
1/8mi---79.7
1/4mi---14.095
1/4mi---101.94
ran 8 times and had 2-14.0's and 6-14.1's. also had 2-100mph runs and 6-101 mph runs.
there was an 07 g35sport 6mt there, i think his best was when we lined up together .
on my slip it says he had a 2.1 60ft....9.1@78 1/8....14.12@99 1/4. not bad. we were discussing his times(high 90's mph and mid 14's times). Its difficult to launch the 6mt without wheel hop and he was doing the best he could. also, he drives the car like a grandma everywhere, so we agreed that the ecm has things running a lil slower due to the driving style. Either way, i and almost everyone else was supprised by the G. It was doing really well.
Great time. From previous posts I saw that you have an AT, did you do this run with paddles, DS, or D? Interesting that he had a slight edge at the 1/8 mile mark, but you pulled away after that, also amazing how close the MT is to the AT in these cars.
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Murfreesboro, TN
i had went to the 1/8mile a few months ago and tried all the different driving modes. the paddles were the quickest by far.
i would drive around the wet box and stop just in front of it, turn off my vdc, stand on the brake and throttle to bring the revs up as high as possible and release the brake. It would burnout for about 2-3 seconds until i let off and stopped just in time for the staging lights.
there i would line it up and wait on the yellows to start with my left foot on the brake and right preparing to throttle up. as the yellows started, i would bring the rpms up to around 2000. and right as the last yellow lit up i would let off the brake and floor the throttle. (this gave me consistant 2.1 60ft's).
as i went down the track i would hit the paddle in 1st at around 7000 and it would shift at 7500. 2nd hit it at around 7300 and it would shift at 7500 again. 3rd i would hit it right on 7500. and a few times i would try to hold the gear as long as possible but i still had to hit it to forth before the finish.
there is a slight delay on the shifting by a few milliseconds, its enough that if you try to hit the paddle right at 7500 you will hit the soft revlimiter this car has and it slows the shift and delays the power once in the next gear. very bad when in a race or whatever. and yes, these track times confirm what i felt when i test drove the 6mt and the 5at paddles.....they have gotten the auto and manuals almost identical in power/performance.
(except ofcoarse when you get over highway speeds-6mt win that battle due to the power the torque converter eats up as speeds climb)
i would drive around the wet box and stop just in front of it, turn off my vdc, stand on the brake and throttle to bring the revs up as high as possible and release the brake. It would burnout for about 2-3 seconds until i let off and stopped just in time for the staging lights.
there i would line it up and wait on the yellows to start with my left foot on the brake and right preparing to throttle up. as the yellows started, i would bring the rpms up to around 2000. and right as the last yellow lit up i would let off the brake and floor the throttle. (this gave me consistant 2.1 60ft's).
as i went down the track i would hit the paddle in 1st at around 7000 and it would shift at 7500. 2nd hit it at around 7300 and it would shift at 7500 again. 3rd i would hit it right on 7500. and a few times i would try to hold the gear as long as possible but i still had to hit it to forth before the finish.
there is a slight delay on the shifting by a few milliseconds, its enough that if you try to hit the paddle right at 7500 you will hit the soft revlimiter this car has and it slows the shift and delays the power once in the next gear. very bad when in a race or whatever. and yes, these track times confirm what i felt when i test drove the 6mt and the 5at paddles.....they have gotten the auto and manuals almost identical in power/performance.
(except ofcoarse when you get over highway speeds-6mt win that battle due to the power the torque converter eats up as speeds climb)
Great info and description of the launch and run. I knew to shift at around 7k in 1st for the shift to happen at 7.5k, but didn't know the gap closed in other gears. Thanks for posting!
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Have you played around with brake standing at different RPMs? Just wondering, what happens when you brake stand past 2000 RPM? Do you get excessive wheel spin? I would imagine a track is a lot stickier because of all the rubber laid down.
It sounds like the car is ignoring your up shifts and the ECU/trans is reacting to the full throttle instead and shifting close to or at redline. I'm pretty sure the ECU won't let the car bog down if you used the paddle to shift early. I've tried accelerating up to freeway speeds at full throttle and rapidly upshifted the paddle through all gears to see what would happen. Guess what, the trans will still hold up to the redline and ignore the early paddle shifts.
I'm sure you've played around with doing the whole run in DS mode. Your paddle shift points got consistently better times than in DS mode?
Thanks
It sounds like the car is ignoring your up shifts and the ECU/trans is reacting to the full throttle instead and shifting close to or at redline. I'm pretty sure the ECU won't let the car bog down if you used the paddle to shift early. I've tried accelerating up to freeway speeds at full throttle and rapidly upshifted the paddle through all gears to see what would happen. Guess what, the trans will still hold up to the redline and ignore the early paddle shifts.
I'm sure you've played around with doing the whole run in DS mode. Your paddle shift points got consistently better times than in DS mode?
Thanks
Originally Posted by terrycs
It sounds like the car is ignoring your up shifts and the ECU/trans is reacting to the full throttle instead and shifting close to or at redline. I'm pretty sure the ECU won't let the car bog down if you used the paddle to shift early. I've tried accelerating up to freeway speeds at full throttle and rapidly upshifted the paddle through all gears to see what would happen. Guess what, the trans will still hold up to the redline and ignore the early paddle shifts.
Thanks
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From: Murfreesboro, TN
yea its a time delay between the pressing of the paddle and the actual shift. if you try to get any closer to redline in 1st you WILL hit the "soft rev" limiter. thats where it will stop accelerating at 7500 and delay the shift even longer, then when it does, the power is delayed as well. a little feature the engineers like to throw in to keep your *** out of the redline on this car.
yea the paddles are faster. the ds is faster if you hit the revlimiter while on the paddles.....so to eliminate human error and be consistant, the DS is the way to go.
If you launch any higher than 2000 rpm, you WILL get wheel hop/spin on this factory tires. I would love to have some slicks and launch it as high as i can torque it.
yea the paddles are faster. the ds is faster if you hit the revlimiter while on the paddles.....so to eliminate human error and be consistant, the DS is the way to go.
If you launch any higher than 2000 rpm, you WILL get wheel hop/spin on this factory tires. I would love to have some slicks and launch it as high as i can torque it.
Originally Posted by IvoryPearl07G
yea its a time delay between the pressing of the paddle and the actual shift. if you try to get any closer to redline in 1st you WILL hit the "soft rev" limiter. thats where it will stop accelerating at 7500 and delay the shift even longer, then when it does, the power is delayed as well. a little feature the engineers like to throw in to keep your *** out of the redline on this car.
yea the paddles are faster. the ds is faster if you hit the revlimiter while on the paddles.....so to eliminate human error and be consistant, the DS is the way to go.
If you launch any higher than 2000 rpm, you WILL get wheel hop/spin on this factory tires. I would love to have some slicks and launch it as high as i can torque it.
yea the paddles are faster. the ds is faster if you hit the revlimiter while on the paddles.....so to eliminate human error and be consistant, the DS is the way to go.
If you launch any higher than 2000 rpm, you WILL get wheel hop/spin on this factory tires. I would love to have some slicks and launch it as high as i can torque it.
The paddles like DS mode only change or hold the shift points, they dont make shifts any faster. The paddles will give you more control over the shifts so you can shift before redline.. but in this car.. I don't think its much of an advantage.
Originally Posted by CarNutz
I don't see any difference between DS and D when it comes to WOT shifts. DS wont shift it any quicker at WOT than in any other mode. DS will hold the gears longer before upshifts and such but not shift any faster.
The paddles like DS mode only change or hold the shift points, they dont make shifts any faster. The paddles will give you more control over the shifts so you can shift before redline.. but in this car.. I don't think its much of an advantage.
The paddles like DS mode only change or hold the shift points, they dont make shifts any faster. The paddles will give you more control over the shifts so you can shift before redline.. but in this car.. I don't think its much of an advantage.
Originally Posted by SPEEED
Nice numbers. What were the temps/humidity conditions?
temp and humidity please......








