G35 Sedan V36 2007- 08 Discussion about the 2nd Generation G35 Sedan 2007 - 08

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Old Aug 4, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by G35S
I see your point. Never thought of it from the MT perspective.
ergh? i have an AT.

i'm saying that even in an AT car, the dead pedal placement plays a role, particularly in spirited driving (which exploder just implied as well)
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Altersys
nope...

that will work with just one variable (the dead pedal) but add another (in an AT) and it's not so simplistic...

that's why some cars come with adjustable pedals. in my case, all i need is for the dead pedal to come out by a couple inches.
Sorry. Saw your response to Bkrider who has an MT and thought you had the same.

Not trying to split hairs here, but I don't really understand the "two variable" concept in the AT.

The continuous motion of applying and releasing pressure to the accelerator and brake with your right foot is the only variable present.

If you find a good spot with the left foot on the dead pedal it remains there...static...not moving.

The right foot is always moving anyway, so the need to have the perfect angle is diminished, unlike the dead pedal where your ankle/achilles will get stiff over a period of time.

IMO anyway, for what it's worth...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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each "pedal" is a variable in terms of resting plane, not pedal motion. the ideal resting plane for each pedal is a fixed distance. for the brake it's usually a bit higher so you can get more force on it than the accelerator. same for a clutch when you have one. so what i meant by "variable" was to imply a solution. the solution is the seat adjustment. with two or more variables, the seat adjustment will be correct for one pedal, and a compromise for the other two, unless the solution of the other two are correct relative to each other (see above).

that said, useful dead pedals are ideally higher for the same reason- force. ever drive an audi or VW? take a look at how high their dead pedals are and see how comfortable you get in spirited riding. you can really brace yourself with it, and when you're cruising the strain on your knee is reduced.

anyway, clearly not too many people agree with me on this and that's ok. i just want to solution to my problem and not to convince others of anything they don't want to believe.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Altersys
each "pedal" is a variable in terms of resting plane, not pedal motion. the ideal resting plane for each pedal is a fixed distance. for the brake it's usually a bit higher so you can get more force on it than the accelerator. same for a clutch when you have one. so what i meant by "variable" was to imply a solution. the solution is the seat adjustment. with two or more variables, the seat adjustment will be correct for one pedal, and a compromise for the other two, unless the solution of the other two are correct relative to each other (see above).

that said, useful dead pedals are ideally higher for the same reason- force. ever drive an audi or VW? take a look at how high their dead pedals are and see how comfortable you get in spirited riding. you can really brace yourself with it, and when you're cruising the strain on your knee is reduced.

anyway, clearly not too many people agree with me on this and that's ok. i just want to solution to my problem and not to convince others of anything they don't want to believe.
That's a good explanation. Now I understand the "variable" description. It clarifies your thought process and why the present angle/depth doesn't work for you.

My history with luxo-sport cars is confined to some very limited driving in a 325 and the G35S I have now. The overall driving experience in this car is such an upgrade that the pedal issue is minor for me. Although I can see where it could be of importance to someone like you that has more of a reference point with other cars.

And the angle/depth of the dead pedal just seems to suit me and my comfort zone...

Good luck finding a workable solution...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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no worries. glad we can communicate effectively

it's nto a huge issue for me, but it does tire me a little bit on longer drives. i find myself having to stop more often to stretch the legs than i did in my last car.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 04:23 AM
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i still havent done anything about this... been too busy with other projects. let me know how this works out if you do it all the way, and id love to see pics thanks
Here ya go - the first pic is a close-up shot of the hollow aluminum box, with two holes drilled through it for two screws that go into the poly kick panel, making sure both holes are drilled into the panel BELOW the poly plate which is the fuse box cover, otherwise there'd be no strength; when you press down hard on the pedal such as when cornering right, the cover would pop off:




This second pic, this time from further up, shows how it would look more from the driving position. The box came with a matching solid aluminum cover which is screwed on and makes for a neat, complete look - except I lost the dang cover, so it looks like I'll have to buy another box just for the cover:




I guess if I wanted to be really **** I could pull up the carpet (the dead pedal is mounted directly to the carpet and not into the floor, you can tell by pushing/pulling the dead pedal and seeing how it moves, moving the carpet along with it) and mount the box underneath, then drill and tap two machine screw holes through the original pedal to mount it to the box. But I think the carpet would have to be cut and resewn to now fit over a higher, boxed shape or else it would only be draped over the now-higher pedal and would be lumpy and pleated and look generally screwed up.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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hey thanks for the pics!

but that's definitely not the effect i'm looking for. i'll probably leave it as is until i have the time and inclination to work on my car instead of my other toys

thanks again though
 
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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if you find good solution for adding about an inch and a half to the hight of the dead pedal- maybe offset so the fuse door is accessible please post it. Infiniti just doesn't seem to get it the way most other sports sedan makers do about a decent angle for a resting place for the left foot!!!
 
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