What will 0-60 & 1/4 time with 7AT?
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It might be slower than our 5AT because you have to take into consideration the time it takes for the transmission to shift gears. Whenever you have more gears to grind through, it can make enough of a difference to make the car slower in certain areas.
Look at the EVO and STI a few years back when the EVO came in a 5spd transmission and the STI came with a 6spd. The STI beat the EVO because of the extra horsepower in the 1/4 mile, but the EVO won in all track events because of the shorter gearing. Longer gears aren't always better...maybe for increasing a little gas mileage but for performance I'll stick with the 5AT, more readily available torque for me
Look at the EVO and STI a few years back when the EVO came in a 5spd transmission and the STI came with a 6spd. The STI beat the EVO because of the extra horsepower in the 1/4 mile, but the EVO won in all track events because of the shorter gearing. Longer gears aren't always better...maybe for increasing a little gas mileage but for performance I'll stick with the 5AT, more readily available torque for me
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Originally Posted by ugaexploder
It might be slower than our 5AT because you have to take into consideration the time it takes for the transmission to shift gears. Whenever you have more gears to grind through, it can make enough of a difference to make the car slower in certain areas.
Look at the EVO and STI a few years back when the EVO came in a 5spd transmission and the STI came with a 6spd. The STI beat the EVO because of the extra horsepower in the 1/4 mile, but the EVO won in all track events because of the shorter gearing. Longer gears aren't always better...maybe for increasing a little gas mileage but for performance I'll stick with the 5AT, more readily available torque for me
Look at the EVO and STI a few years back when the EVO came in a 5spd transmission and the STI came with a 6spd. The STI beat the EVO because of the extra horsepower in the 1/4 mile, but the EVO won in all track events because of the shorter gearing. Longer gears aren't always better...maybe for increasing a little gas mileage but for performance I'll stick with the 5AT, more readily available torque for me
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Originally Posted by EZZ
The Evo was faster not due to gearing but because it had a better suspension. The Mercedes 7AT pruduced noticeably better times over its 5AT counterpart when it first came out. Lets not kid ourselves. The new G will be faster than the current G because it will have more hp, more gears, and probably a faster shifting tranny. Newer tech will always be better than its predecessors.
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Originally Posted by 306HP
The notion that the 7 speed will be slower has no merit. The IS350 with slightly more torque and 6 gears is slightly faster than the G. The FX50 with 7 gears did 0-60 in 5 seconds. There is no loss in perfomance there. I am nogt going to hesitate in upgrading to the G37 from my 08
and again, i'm not saying they're going to come out with something slower but you can't just assume something is better because it's newer or has more number of gears.
you're taking my comments out of context, you can't just base straight line speeds from the number of gears in a transmission is what i'm trying to say. there is more to a car's performance numbers than just the transmission. tires can make a bigger difference IMO.
Last edited by ugaexploder; 06-01-2008 at 01:29 PM.
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I think my logic makes sense, IS350 faster than G despite 6 gears. It weighs more and it has more torque but I think these 2 balnce each other out. Real world example of y more gears dont necessarily equate to slower trap time, both are 3.5l engines (different technology, yes I know)
Your reasoning makes sense but why look at the theory when there are real world examples out there. I believe the 3.7l coupe is just as fast as the G35 from 0-60, so if the G37 sedan weighs less than the coupe it should be pretty fast, I doubt the extra gears will be a problem because it will not need all 7 gears to get to 60mph or even 100mph. I doubt it will ever get to the 6th gear at 100mph.
from your assumptions, the 10at guy would win, but some of us know there are other factors that will determine the winner of this race
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Your reasoning makes sense but why look at the theory when there are real world examples out there. I believe the 3.7l coupe is just as fast as the G35 from 0-60, so if the G37 sedan weighs less than the coupe it should be pretty fast, I doubt the extra gears will be a problem because it will not need all 7 gears to get to 60mph or even 100mph. I doubt it will ever get to the 6th gear at 100mph.
from your assumptions, the 10at guy would win, but some of us know there are other factors that will determine the winner of this race
Not even going to comment on this
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Don't forget about the gear ratios:
Current 5-speed AT's gear ratios:
(V6)
1st – 3.842
2nd – 2.353
3rd – 1.529
4th – 1.000
5th – 0.839
New 7-speed AT:
(V-6)
1st – 4.92
2nd – 3.19
3rd – 2.04
4th – 1.41
5th – 1.00
6th – 0.86
7th – 0.77
It will be very quick from 1, 2, and 3rd gears in the 7AT.
Current 5-speed AT's gear ratios:
(V6)
1st – 3.842
2nd – 2.353
3rd – 1.529
4th – 1.000
5th – 0.839
New 7-speed AT:
(V-6)
1st – 4.92
2nd – 3.19
3rd – 2.04
4th – 1.41
5th – 1.00
6th – 0.86
7th – 0.77
It will be very quick from 1, 2, and 3rd gears in the 7AT.
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Originally Posted by GT-R
Don't forget about the gear ratios:
Current 5-speed AT's gear ratios:
(V6)
1st – 3.842
2nd – 2.353
3rd – 1.529
4th – 1.000
5th – 0.839
New 7-speed AT:
(V-6)
1st – 4.92
2nd – 3.19
3rd – 2.04
4th – 1.41
5th – 1.00
6th – 0.86
7th – 0.77
It will be very quick from 1, 2, and 3rd gears in the 7AT.
Current 5-speed AT's gear ratios:
(V6)
1st – 3.842
2nd – 2.353
3rd – 1.529
4th – 1.000
5th – 0.839
New 7-speed AT:
(V-6)
1st – 4.92
2nd – 3.19
3rd – 2.04
4th – 1.41
5th – 1.00
6th – 0.86
7th – 0.77
It will be very quick from 1, 2, and 3rd gears in the 7AT.