G35 Sedan V36 2007- 08 Discussion about the 2nd Generation G35 Sedan 2007 - 08

What will 0-60 & 1/4 time with 7AT?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
  #1  
Old 06-01-2008, 11:26 AM
LudwigB's Avatar
Registered User
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Orange County
Posts: 564
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What will 0-60 & 1/4 time with 7AT?

In the recent MotorTrend FX35 7AT review, the 4260lbs FX was able to get 6.1 and 14.6. So my guess for the G37 7AT will be around 5.2 and 13.7.
 
  #2  
Old 06-01-2008, 11:30 AM
ugaexploder's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ATL
Posts: 2,288
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
It might be slower than our 5AT because you have to take into consideration the time it takes for the transmission to shift gears. Whenever you have more gears to grind through, it can make enough of a difference to make the car slower in certain areas.

Look at the EVO and STI a few years back when the EVO came in a 5spd transmission and the STI came with a 6spd. The STI beat the EVO because of the extra horsepower in the 1/4 mile, but the EVO won in all track events because of the shorter gearing. Longer gears aren't always better...maybe for increasing a little gas mileage but for performance I'll stick with the 5AT, more readily available torque for me
 
  #3  
Old 06-01-2008, 11:40 AM
EZZ's Avatar
EZZ
EZZ is offline
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,056
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by ugaexploder
It might be slower than our 5AT because you have to take into consideration the time it takes for the transmission to shift gears. Whenever you have more gears to grind through, it can make enough of a difference to make the car slower in certain areas.

Look at the EVO and STI a few years back when the EVO came in a 5spd transmission and the STI came with a 6spd. The STI beat the EVO because of the extra horsepower in the 1/4 mile, but the EVO won in all track events because of the shorter gearing. Longer gears aren't always better...maybe for increasing a little gas mileage but for performance I'll stick with the 5AT, more readily available torque for me
The Evo was faster not due to gearing but because it had a better suspension. The Mercedes 7AT pruduced noticeably better times over its 5AT counterpart when it first came out. Lets not kid ourselves. The new G will be faster than the current G because it will have more hp, more gears, and probably a faster shifting tranny. Newer tech will always be better than its predecessors.
 
  #4  
Old 06-01-2008, 11:46 AM
ugaexploder's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ATL
Posts: 2,288
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by EZZ
The Evo was faster not due to gearing but because it had a better suspension. The Mercedes 7AT pruduced noticeably better times over its 5AT counterpart when it first came out. Lets not kid ourselves. The new G will be faster than the current G because it will have more hp, more gears, and probably a faster shifting tranny. Newer tech will always be better than its predecessors.
that's a good point about the suspension. and you're right for the most part about newer tech being better than its predecessors, but that's not always the case (EVO IX vs EVO X). the new G probably will be faster, but you never know until the numbers come out. i thought the G37 would be hitting 13.5 in the 1/4, but it's doing 13.9 just like us so you never know
 
  #5  
Old 06-01-2008, 11:59 AM
Nismo G's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (21)
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 7,244
Received 23 Likes on 13 Posts
I want the 7speed that comes in the g35 (i think 03 and 04) in japan. They never brought it to the US.

-Sean
 
  #6  
Old 06-01-2008, 12:03 PM
306HP's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The notion that the 7 speed will be slower has no merit. The IS350 with slightly more torque and 6 gears is slightly faster than the G. The FX50 with 7 gears did 0-60 in 5 seconds. There is no loss in perfomance there. I am nogt going to hesitate in upgrading to the G37 from my 08
 
  #7  
Old 06-01-2008, 01:24 PM
ugaexploder's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: ATL
Posts: 2,288
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by 306HP
The notion that the 7 speed will be slower has no merit. The IS350 with slightly more torque and 6 gears is slightly faster than the G. The FX50 with 7 gears did 0-60 in 5 seconds. There is no loss in perfomance there. I am nogt going to hesitate in upgrading to the G37 from my 08
no merit? okay here is reasoning, when a transmission switches gears it isn't seamless and there is a delay...if i had a 10 speed AT would that do a 0-60 in 1 second? who will win if a car had the same engine but one had 5at and the other had 10at? from your assumptions, the 10at guy would win, but some of us know there are other factors that will determine the winner of this race

and again, i'm not saying they're going to come out with something slower but you can't just assume something is better because it's newer or has more number of gears.

you're taking my comments out of context, you can't just base straight line speeds from the number of gears in a transmission is what i'm trying to say. there is more to a car's performance numbers than just the transmission. tires can make a bigger difference IMO.
 

Last edited by ugaexploder; 06-01-2008 at 01:29 PM.
  #8  
Old 06-01-2008, 01:59 PM
306HP's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think my logic makes sense, IS350 faster than G despite 6 gears. It weighs more and it has more torque but I think these 2 balnce each other out. Real world example of y more gears dont necessarily equate to slower trap time, both are 3.5l engines (different technology, yes I know)

Your reasoning makes sense but why look at the theory when there are real world examples out there. I believe the 3.7l coupe is just as fast as the G35 from 0-60, so if the G37 sedan weighs less than the coupe it should be pretty fast, I doubt the extra gears will be a problem because it will not need all 7 gears to get to 60mph or even 100mph. I doubt it will ever get to the 6th gear at 100mph.

from your assumptions, the 10at guy would win, but some of us know there are other factors that will determine the winner of this race

Not even going to comment on this
 
  #9  
Old 06-01-2008, 02:02 PM
Klubbheads's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (10)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: LA, North Holly
Posts: 17,039
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 11 Posts
more gears = better. Better powerband = faster. 7AT will be faster than 5AT or even 6MTs.
 
  #10  
Old 06-01-2008, 02:04 PM
306HP's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
exactly
 
  #11  
Old 06-01-2008, 02:08 PM
mIKE's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 6,408
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by Klubbheads
more gears = better. Better powerband = faster. 7AT will be faster than 5AT or even 6MTs.
5AT? probably
6MT? thats iffy... the AT will weigh more, and you do get more drivetrain loss.
 
  #12  
Old 06-01-2008, 02:15 PM
306HP's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
lets wait & see
 
  #13  
Old 06-01-2008, 04:53 PM
GT-R's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 284
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Don't forget about the gear ratios:

Current 5-speed AT's gear ratios:

(V6)
1st – 3.842
2nd – 2.353
3rd – 1.529
4th – 1.000
5th – 0.839

New 7-speed AT:

(V-6)
1st – 4.92
2nd – 3.19
3rd – 2.04
4th – 1.41
5th – 1.00
6th – 0.86
7th – 0.77

It will be very quick from 1, 2, and 3rd gears in the 7AT.
 
  #14  
Old 06-01-2008, 09:26 PM
ikagan's Avatar
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by GT-R
Don't forget about the gear ratios:

Current 5-speed AT's gear ratios:

(V6)
1st – 3.842
2nd – 2.353
3rd – 1.529
4th – 1.000
5th – 0.839

New 7-speed AT:

(V-6)
1st – 4.92
2nd – 3.19
3rd – 2.04
4th – 1.41
5th – 1.00
6th – 0.86
7th – 0.77

It will be very quick from 1, 2, and 3rd gears in the 7AT.
Do you know the final drive ratio?
 
  #15  
Old 06-01-2008, 10:31 PM
snowcrossmxz's Avatar
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NH
Posts: 847
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
these type of threes are fun to read
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: What will 0-60 & 1/4 time with 7AT?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:46 PM.