That is pretty bad. Have you check the lug nut torque? Too tight lug nuts are a common cause of warping.

To give you a comparison, I have tracked my Mazda Miata 3 times with hard braking from 100mph down to about 40mph. Temp around 90+ degrees. Rotors have had about 40k miles on them. No problem at all.

 

You lost all credibility after that one. It's not as simple as slapping a large piece of glass on the vehicle. The car has to be reengineered to accept a full glass roof as I doubt it was designed from the get go with one in mind. The mechanism for the large piece of sliding glass adds cost, complexity and weight to the vehicle (where you got the idea that the car would be lighter is beyond me), not to mention it further reduces the structural integrity of the car by replacing part of the fixed roof area with glass instead of steel. Keep in mind that the glass will have to be of decent thickness, which combined with all those moving parts add weight above the vehicle's center of gravity. Additionally, if Nissan/Infiniti were to deem the vehicle's structure compromised, be it from a performance standpoint, safety standpoint or both, they'd need to stiffen the body with some sort of brace further adding weight to the vehicle. If a glass roof reduced weight as you suggested, all sports cars would have one. Last I checked the GT-R didn't have a glass roof. It's simply cheaper to wait until the next full redesign to implement this feature. I'm willing to bet a dual panel moonroof shows up on the V37 when it replaces the V36.

As for the mirrors w/ side markers everyone here seems to have a boner for, the V36 is already engineered for side markers integrated into the fenders as seen on the JDM model. We all know Nissan is well known for cost cutting so why do people get so fussy and expect them to spend money on reengineering the side markers into the mirrors for a simple mid cycle refresh? My guess is that we'll finally see them on the V37 in a few years.



I will agree with you all on the cooled seats though. Obviously they took the switch setup from the M and FX. I doubt it would have been much harder to implement the cooling element from these vehicles into the G as well.

 

My dealer told me my Plan D VPP would be honored when I ordered my car as well (and I got it in writing as well). I'm not sure what the difference is between Plan C and D, but hopefully that means good things for you too.

 

So I am bored, but decided to do some calculations for the car I ordered based on some posts I've seen between myG37 and here:

G37 6MT with premium, nav, tech, splash guards:

Base: $33850 (based on some info from myG37, the coupe 6MT went up $800)
Premium: $2500 (assuming no price increase for remainder below given original poster's observations)
Navigation: $2150
Tech: $1100
Splash: $150 (don't know why this was $5 less, but I'll take it)
Delivery: $815

Total: $40565 (up from $39770 from 2008, $795 difference)

If the dealership sells/leases me the car for the negotiated price of $500 over invoice:

1) Assuming invoice price including shipping of $36987.50 (based on percentage of invoice/MSRP calculated on Edmunds (pre-shipping charge) of 91%)(2008: $36282, difference $705.50)
2) I should hopefully have an agreed upon price of $37487.50 (not including tax, title, blah, blah, etc.)

What's the point of all these numbers? Nothing. I'm bored waiting for my car. The interesting thing will be the residuals and money factor or if I decide to buy, interest rates. Anyone else want to throw in some speculation regarding money factors/residuals? What were the residuals doing last year when the '08's came in?

BTW, I did some calculations based on early '08's (October '07), 36 month, 15K lease with MF .00284 and residual of 53% and came out to $650 including tax; late June numbers of 58% and MF of .00150 came out to $500 including tax. The lease payment would likely fall somewhere in between, however taken to extremes, this could mean a difference of $5000 over a three year lease with 15K miles.

 

If you use the May numbers then it would be 59% residual and .0015 for 36 months and 15K. There were some really deals in May!

 

Hey Brent...

What type of document did you sign off on? I may try the same thing, although I believe I'm part of the VPP Plan A or B... (My company is a supplier to Nissan I think)

The only way I can extend my G35x lease further is if I provide Infiniti Finance with some sort of order document. (I don't remember what terms they used)

Thanks

 

It was my opinion. If you want to stand by Infiniti's silly decision to not include some things, go ahead. I still have plenty of credibility left and as far as weight goes, yeah I wasn't thinking as I posted that piece so my apologies. The entire car does not have to be re-engineered to accept a full panel glass sunroof. Now would some modifications to structure be requried? Absolutely. However, since Infiniti was doing a mid-cycle refresh, I'm certain they could have done this especially since they already had planned it in the Maxima. Same goes for the cooled seats, side mirror markers, and heated steering wheel. Everyone in here for the most part agrees with me that it's silly to have the Maxima have more features than the G-35...period. I wouldn't call the G-37 a regular simple mid-cycle refresh. If they can add a 7-spd auto and 3.7 engine, why not the other things? I'm not saying they put not thought into it but they dropped the ball on that.

 

I don't agree with this. I want to agree with this because I own a G, and it bugs me that the Maxima has features my G doesn't have But at the same time the G has features the Maxima doesn't have, or I'd have bought a Maxima.

In the US, the Maxima is Nissan's flagship sedan. The G is Infiniti's entry level vehicle. From a marketting perspective, it makes perfect sense to give the Maxima more stuff than the G. Otherwise, why wouldn't you just go buy a G? Nissan needs to differentiate the models in where and how the place them.

In Japan, the Maxima is their high end upper mid-size executive/sport sedan. The Skyline is placed below that as a mid-size performance car.

 

Modifications to structure = reengineered. I never said the car needed to be reengineered from the ground up, but I'm pretty sure folks would agree that substantial modifications to the structure would warrant the use of the term "reengineered."

I already explained that I agree with folks on the cooled seats, but I clearly explained the side marker issue. It's very simple really. Why spend money on such a small detail? Me thinks the decision to introduce the new seat heater switches was itself less of Infiniti paying attention to details and more about them saving money by discontinuing the two position rocker switches. They can spin it as "tasteful updates for the European market" all they want, but for them to change something as small as that and not even think about implementing cooled seats leads me to think that this was another well disguised cost cutting measure.

Which is silly in and of itself. The two cars overlap just a bit, but they still compete in two separate segments. The Maxima is a direct competitor to the Lexus ES, Acura TL and Toyota Avalon and is more of an Infiniti I35 in spirit than it is a return to the 4DSC ethos. The G on the other hand is aimed squarely at the BMW 3-Series, Audi A4, Mercedes C-Class and the Lexus IS. The whole "more equipment than the G" problem stems from the fact that Nissan decided to keep the Maxima around instead of giving the car to Infiniti to sell as an '09 I35. The Maxima is a car that technically shouldn't exist but does simply because of the heritage the nameplate carries (I won't get into that one).

Still, this isn't the first time we've seen a Nissan with more equipment than a "comparable" Infiniti. Look at the '09 Murano and the '09 FX. Power return seats, a power liftgate and a dual panel moonroof on the Murano. All features which are nowhere to be found on the '09 FX. Why? Because they compete in different segments.

Well that's what it is. A simple mid-cycle refresh. Heck the '05 G Sedan was more significantly updated from the '04 than the '09 is from the '08 IMO. The exterior of the '09 hasn't even been touched sans for a set of craptastic looking wheels on the Sport models. Yeesh. To me the 3.7 and the 7A/T were always destined for the G Sedan at some point. I didn't think it would get the motor this soon, but after seeing what the competition has been mustering in recent years I can understand Infiniti's decision to drop the 3.7 into the 4 door. The 7A/T was a no brainer though. Once that thing was put on display by JATCO, I knew it would be the trans that replaced the aging 5A/T as Nissan has gone completely CVT on their FWD vehicles.

 

After hearing some talk of a release this month, I called my dealer to find out if I could get my car, and was told that there will be a 1-3 MONTH delay on all 2009 G37s.

This is of course purely empirical info, but considering the fact that they have offered to return my deposit, it feels true.

I am going start looking for a 08 335i, and think about extending my lease another three months.

What joy to it would be to take delivery of a RWD car with summer tires in Chicago in January.

Brent

 

I ordered mine from Infiniti of Lisle 2-3 weeks ago and should have it shortly after Christmas.

My snow tires are ordered and will be put on before I take delivery. summer tires in the Chicagoland area in Jan isnt a good idea for a new car.

 

I'm still hoping on the October 15th G37 sedan wholesale date per my dealer in Missouri. I'm tired of waiting. Hang in there, one thing I didn't like about the 3 series and the IS is that they offered less rear leg room. I wanted something similar in size to my current Altima with a little bit more "zing."