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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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Coarse and Unrefined?

No, were not talking about me at the dinner table. We're talking about the VQ37VHR, or at least some mags have said.

What is the real deal with this? I'd assume the 6mt is more hard edged and transmits more vibes through the car, but is it that bad?

I'm upgrading from 06 Altima SE-R (6sp). Could it be worse than my current car? My VQ is no velvety smooth runner, but it aint that bad either.

Last question: Why is it that the shifter vibrates so much in the 07+ G Seadans and 08+ Coupes? Don't other rear drive manual cars avoide this fate?
 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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Why is it that the shifter vibrates so much in the 07+ G Seadans and 08+ Coupes? Don't other rear drive manual cars avoide this fate?
Older model Gs and all Zs share this trait as well...
 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike S.
No, were not talking about me at the dinner table. We're talking about the VQ37VHR, or at least some mags have said.

What is the real deal with this? I'd assume the 6mt is more hard edged and transmits more vibes through the car, but is it that bad?

I'm upgrading from 06 Altima SE-R (6sp). Could it be worse than my current car? My VQ is no velvety smooth runner, but it aint that bad either.

Last question: Why is it that the shifter vibrates so much in the 07+ G Seadans and 08+ Coupes? Don't other rear drive manual cars avoide this fate?
The G is always compared to the BMW 3-series, which is smoother with less engine vibration, mostly due to its straight-6 engine layout (inherently more stable than a V6 layout). It's also compared to the Acura TL and IS350, both of which are very soft, numb, and over-dampened compared to the G.

I switched from a 350Z to a G35 Sedan and actually found it to be a little too "refined". I miss the "roughness" of my Z. I'd imagine the G will feel much more refined than your SE-R, but not so refined that you lose the feel of the road and connection to the car.

 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike S.
Last question: Why is it that the shifter vibrates so much in the 07+ G Seadans and 08+ Coupes? Don't other rear drive manual cars avoide this fate?
I have read in the car magazines that the vibration is less in the G37's. I have an 09 G37 sedan and don't have any issue with vibration in the shifter. My previous 3 cars were a BMW, RX-8, and another BMW. I find the shifter nice.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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The shifter vibrates in the G37 sedan 6MT. I like it. I think a lot of cars tend to dampen the true driver experience. The G doesn't do that and really doesn't apologize for it either.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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The shifter in a 6MT vibrates because it is attached directly to the transmission. It is not a shift by wire setup like on a Honda or Acura or other FWD cars
 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:06 PM
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The shifter in a 6MT vibrates because it is attached directly to the transmission. It is not a shift by wire setup like on a Honda or Acura or other FWD cars
"Shift by wire?"



 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 09:45 PM
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"Shift by wire?"



I believe that some cars use a cable linkage between the transmission and the shifter.
 
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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The shifter in my '09 G37 6MT sedan does vibrate but it's nowhere near as noticable as it was on my '07. I'm sure the '07 6MTs are quite popular with the females.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by zmzmzm
I believe that some cars use a cable linkage between the transmission and the shifter.
A cable linkage is not "by wire".

"By wire" means there is no physical linkage at all, and instead a sensor determines the inputs and relays the data to a motor that controls the device.

For example, the G has a throttle "by wire" system that uses a throttle position sensor in place of a throttle cable.

 
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zed
"Shift by wire?"



I thought that was a very apt description of what most FWD NIPPON cars shift like. One shining exception is my new Honda Si, that thing has the slickest 6sp I have ever used. It's as good or better than the G.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zed
A cable linkage is not "by wire".

"By wire" means there is no physical linkage at all, and instead a sensor determines the inputs and relays the data to a motor that controls the device.

For example, the G has a throttle "by wire" system that uses a throttle position sensor in place of a throttle cable.

I understand the difference, was just guessing what another poster was trying to describe.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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It's also being compared to the early-gen VQ's which felt much smoother and more refined. With each iteration of the VQ, it seems to feel harsher and coarser, but nothing bad.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:55 PM
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I had an 07+ G35 sedan (base) as a loaner that I thought was noticeably less refined than my 09 G37 6MT. Not sure how much of that was design and how much was driving a beaten-down loaner with 25K on the odometer and comparing it to a brand new car with 1K miles.

Shifter vibration in the 6MT exists but isn't even REMOTELY something I would ever concern myself with. It's considerably less than any RWD I-4 car I've ever driven. I haven't spent much time in FWD I-4's because FWD sucks
 
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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The Car & Driver 10-best article seems to imply that there were refinement improvements made in 09.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...rs+page-7.html

"We’re not immune to the appeal of more power, of course, but there’s more to the G’s story than increased muscle. The powertrain team also improved the refinement of the V-6 and the engagements and feel of the six-speed manual transmission, putting it on par with, if not ahead of, the gearbox in BMW’s 3-series. Similarly, the chassis engineers have maintained the G’s agile handling while simultaneously taking the hard edge off the ride quality, a particularly welcome improvement in the firmer Sport edition."
 
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