Hyuandai Copying???
#47
And your basis of knowledge that an 03 hyundai is "light years away" from present comes from where? the 2.7L Delta (GK series) motor, as well as associated parts/sensors, are still used to this day in their new cars. how long is your interpretation of a light year?
the only reason they are a contender of anything is their price and initial "bang for the buck" (exactly why i bought the tiburon). there's a reason they're cheap, but i'll let you figure that one out, i already did.
but hey, don't believe me, i only owned one. prove me wrong
the only reason they are a contender of anything is their price and initial "bang for the buck" (exactly why i bought the tiburon). there's a reason they're cheap, but i'll let you figure that one out, i already did.
but hey, don't believe me, i only owned one. prove me wrong
I would have no problem recommending a Hyundi.
#48
I'm truly happy you all had such great experiences with the hyundai's, really. wish i had that kind of luck with mine, even close to it, i'd be speaking very differently today.
Unfortunately, I'm the type to hold grudges, and hyundai is a serious grudge of mine.
you may have heard, "screw me once, shame on you...screw me twice shame on me".
I wish you all the best of luck with your hyundai's/kia's. (no sarcasm intended).
Unfortunately, I'm the type to hold grudges, and hyundai is a serious grudge of mine.
you may have heard, "screw me once, shame on you...screw me twice shame on me".
I wish you all the best of luck with your hyundai's/kia's. (no sarcasm intended).
#49
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I'm truly happy you all had such great experiences with the hyundai's, really. wish i had that kind of luck with mine, even close to it, i'd be speaking very differently today.
Unfortunately, I'm the type to hold grudges, and hyundai is a serious grudge of mine.
you may have heard, "screw me once, shame on you...screw me twice shame on me".
I wish you all the best of luck with your hyundai's/kia's. (no sarcasm intended).
Unfortunately, I'm the type to hold grudges, and hyundai is a serious grudge of mine.
you may have heard, "screw me once, shame on you...screw me twice shame on me".
I wish you all the best of luck with your hyundai's/kia's. (no sarcasm intended).
~Passenger seatbelt tensioner & sensor stopped working (resulting in a 2k repair)
~One warped front rotor, one warped rear rotor (rotors only had 15k on them)
resulting in a $800 brake job.
~Transmission developed a low speed hard "clunk" going from 2nd to 1st gear
minimum charge for a rubber coupling and trans drop would have been 2k, up to the max of a new trans 8k plus~We dumped the car before going through this issue.
~Front control arms and bushings were shot (1.3k repair)
~front headlight developed an intermittant short ($300)
~I drive acted up and needed a reflash (don't remeber the exact charge but it was at least $400)
~Water pump went south ($800)
~Trunk lift motor went out (1k)
This was their flagship model and a beautiful car to look at, but I'll never own another BMW unless it's got many years left on the warranty and I have a dealer nearby.
It sucks that you had such a bad experience w/ your Tiburon, but Hyundai has come a very long way since that 03 model. But in your shoes I may feel the same way
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#53
LOL
You scared me there. It would be like I buy Nissan Cube because Nissan won 13 years in the row the best engine.LOL
You a right about they are imporving. What I can see is some of their cars are good quality and some just not there yet. Like Genesis Sedan vs Coupe. Sedan got all the love. They made sure it is down in quality and look at the Coupe. So much problems. I only can speak what my guy says. But he turned in his since it was a disaster. I understand it is kind of first year but not really since the car is out in Korea for longer time.
Hyundai and Ford impressed me how well they are doing in this economy. But again they are one of the cheapest big company and the sales numbers are saying the same.
Genesis sedan sells only as much as the Azera was selling 2 years ago. They could not really crack the pot in the Luxury department and that is the Car of the year.
You scared me there. It would be like I buy Nissan Cube because Nissan won 13 years in the row the best engine.LOL
You a right about they are imporving. What I can see is some of their cars are good quality and some just not there yet. Like Genesis Sedan vs Coupe. Sedan got all the love. They made sure it is down in quality and look at the Coupe. So much problems. I only can speak what my guy says. But he turned in his since it was a disaster. I understand it is kind of first year but not really since the car is out in Korea for longer time.
Hyundai and Ford impressed me how well they are doing in this economy. But again they are one of the cheapest big company and the sales numbers are saying the same.
Genesis sedan sells only as much as the Azera was selling 2 years ago. They could not really crack the pot in the Luxury department and that is the Car of the year.
#54
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At the end of the day many folks in the luxury market don't want to have to tell their neighbor "it's a Hyundai". I mean, in the 35-40k market niche Hyundai doesn't get much love, and it won't until it can prove it belongs in that category.
If they would have set up a luxury brand and built it slowly they may have a better foot in the door on vehicles over 30k than they do right now. With their current marketing strategy they may never win over the true luxury marquee buyers. Right now if an Infinity/Acura/Lexus were exactly equal to a particular Hyundai model I doubt anyone would choose a Hyundai. If the Hyundai was 10k less then it gets interesting.
I don't think as many people are cross shopping Hyundai as they are moving up from a Accord/Camry into a Genesis.
#55
#56
I can truly relate to having a serious problem w/ a car company when a car starts coming apart at the seams. BMW is supposedly one of the premium players and I had nothing but problems in our used 02 745Li. The following problems occured almost immediately after aquiring it:
~Passenger seatbelt tensioner & sensor stopped working (resulting in a 2k repair)
~One warped front rotor, one warped rear rotor (rotors only had 15k on them)
resulting in a $800 brake job.
~Transmission developed a low speed hard "clunk" going from 2nd to 1st gear
minimum charge for a rubber coupling and trans drop would have been 2k, up to the max of a new trans 8k plus~We dumped the car before going through this issue.
~Front control arms and bushings were shot (1.3k repair)
~front headlight developed an intermittant short ($300)
~I drive acted up and needed a reflash (don't remeber the exact charge but it was at least $400)
~Water pump went south ($800)
~Trunk lift motor went out (1k)
This was their flagship model and a beautiful car to look at, but I'll never own another BMW unless it's got many years left on the warranty and I have a dealer nearby.
It sucks that you had such a bad experience w/ your Tiburon, but Hyundai has come a very long way since that 03 model. But in your shoes I may feel the same way
~Passenger seatbelt tensioner & sensor stopped working (resulting in a 2k repair)
~One warped front rotor, one warped rear rotor (rotors only had 15k on them)
resulting in a $800 brake job.
~Transmission developed a low speed hard "clunk" going from 2nd to 1st gear
minimum charge for a rubber coupling and trans drop would have been 2k, up to the max of a new trans 8k plus~We dumped the car before going through this issue.
~Front control arms and bushings were shot (1.3k repair)
~front headlight developed an intermittant short ($300)
~I drive acted up and needed a reflash (don't remeber the exact charge but it was at least $400)
~Water pump went south ($800)
~Trunk lift motor went out (1k)
This was their flagship model and a beautiful car to look at, but I'll never own another BMW unless it's got many years left on the warranty and I have a dealer nearby.
It sucks that you had such a bad experience w/ your Tiburon, but Hyundai has come a very long way since that 03 model. But in your shoes I may feel the same way
#57
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Yeb, in southeast Asia, Toyota is number 1. They wouldn't want to touch other brands unless it's BM or MB. If you live in LA, you see that most cars there are either Toyota, BM or MB.