Grounding kit
thanks!
and which one is better, black betty or gordon gee?
i doubt i will find anyone who has experienced both setups...
and which one is better, black betty or gordon gee?
i doubt i will find anyone who has experienced both setups...
Even when the dyno tests are posted, people find some reason to discredit them. And most of the purported benefits are in driveability, not power, and that cannot be measured in hard numbers.
Waiting for proof that it does NOT do anything. I don't know if they do or don't, but to categorically deny the benefit of something without ever having tried it makes no more sense to me than unjustified claims of benefit.
Waiting for proof that it does NOT do anything. I don't know if they do or don't, but to categorically deny the benefit of something without ever having tried it makes no more sense to me than unjustified claims of benefit.
^ there aren't dynos though. Well there are from 6 years ago. But no one else tested them. People have dyno'ed just for a Ztube and K&N filter.
If someone did a test now, and on the same day, kit and no kit then there would be some grounds to talk on. But right now its just like walking on clouds.
There is no proof that it does anything, other then people saying "I feel a difference". Read up on the Placebo effect.
If someone did a test now, and on the same day, kit and no kit then there would be some grounds to talk on. But right now its just like walking on clouds.
There is no proof that it does anything, other then people saying "I feel a difference". Read up on the Placebo effect.
Right, everyone knows those tests expire and become invalid after 5 years.
The tests were run the same day on the same car, less than half an hour apart. Have you actually looked at the charts?
The tests were run the same day on the same car, less than half an hour apart. Have you actually looked at the charts?
Last edited by Swivel; Jan 15, 2011 at 02:56 PM.
^ No its not that. For example, How many different intake companies for the G show dyno's and say xx hp difference?
Plenty of them right? And people have tested them and shown that they do not give the stated xx HP. Same thing goes for most aftermarket performance parts.
We know a few companies which actually put out good stuff and do great R&D work which have been proven by 3rd party testing.. A company that comes to mind is Motordyne.
There are Zero 3rd party tests with Grounding Kits, Not one ZERO. You cannot link a companies website and go hey look they have charts that say it works, so it must work right? Who paid to have the charts done?
Plenty of them right? And people have tested them and shown that they do not give the stated xx HP. Same thing goes for most aftermarket performance parts.
We know a few companies which actually put out good stuff and do great R&D work which have been proven by 3rd party testing.. A company that comes to mind is Motordyne.
There are Zero 3rd party tests with Grounding Kits, Not one ZERO. You cannot link a companies website and go hey look they have charts that say it works, so it must work right? Who paid to have the charts done?
Last edited by thescreensavers; Jan 15, 2011 at 03:09 PM.
Says "supplied by customers" right on the site. So they were done by third party; only Gord could tell you if the customers paid for their own dynos. Not that you'd believe him. 
I'm sorry, but I don't believe those Motordyne dynos, they must have paid off somebody to fudge the charts.
Kidding, but do you see my point?
I'm sorry, but I don't believe those Motordyne dynos, they must have paid off somebody to fudge the charts.
Kidding, but do you see my point?
So screensavers buy one do a dyno and disprove it. That way its a third party.
Like swivel is saying your just copping out with everyone else and saying wheres the dyno proof, but then when the site shows dyno proof you cant accept it because its not third party. If you dont like the kit after you get it put it up for sale.
Like swivel is saying your just copping out with everyone else and saying wheres the dyno proof, but then when the site shows dyno proof you cant accept it because its not third party. If you dont like the kit after you get it put it up for sale.
Again tests from 6 years ago, how come there haven't been any recent testing? with 400+ people with kits, no one tested them?
Lets say for a moment that you do not believe Motordyne Dynos, I can link you posts, from users on here and on my350z with dynos of their products backing Motordynes Dynos.
Do you see my point?
Lets say for a moment that you do not believe Motordyne Dynos, I can link you posts, from users on here and on my350z with dynos of their products backing Motordynes Dynos.
Do you see my point?
So screensavers buy one do a dyno and disprove it. That way its a third party.
Like swivel is saying your just copping out with everyone else and saying wheres the dyno proof, but then when the site shows dyno proof you cant accept it because its not third party. If you dont like the kit after you get it put it up for sale.
Like swivel is saying your just copping out with everyone else and saying wheres the dyno proof, but then when the site shows dyno proof you cant accept it because its not third party. If you dont like the kit after you get it put it up for sale.
I can say that your copping with everyone else since you already spent the money on a kit thus you have to defend it, I giving my my point of view which makes a crapload of sense. If everyone believed what companies say we all will be using monster cables, and tornado intakes.
Thats were third party tests come in, which everyone looks at. Just look at reviews on websites for a product, would you buy something that has 2/5 stars? But the companies say is works!
Its called i reviewed it listened to feedback and made a descision. I dont regret it at all. Whats the point of me dyno'ing it for a grounding kit? Like everyone else is saying its more then hp too them its drivability. It seems like you want everything gift wrapped on a plate for you with dyno results and facts. Thats not going to happen. Dont know why you would argue that it doesnt work if you dont have it or never have?
Its called i reviewed it listened to feedback and made a descision. I dont regret it at all. Whats the point of me dyno'ing it for a grounding kit? Like everyone else is saying its more then hp too them its drivability. It seems like you want everything gift wrapped on a plate for you with dyno results and facts. Thats not going to happen. Dont know why you would argue that it doesnt work if you dont have it or never have?
Last edited by thescreensavers; Jan 15, 2011 at 05:09 PM.
^ search, search, search my friend.
look up threads here about if they are useful or beneficial/
price varies from product to product, contact gordgee or black betty or SxExCx
contact them for purchase!
look up threads here about if they are useful or beneficial/
price varies from product to product, contact gordgee or black betty or SxExCx
contact them for purchase!