Thinking of Getting Hotchkis Sway Bars
humm .. so i read this thread thinking maybe sway is what i am looking for.
i have a 6MT and I am ok with the ride height and ride quality. but i do want to reduce some of the lean in turns. I do track day maybe 4 to 5 times a year.
should i simply go for adjustable sway instead of coilover? whats the ballpark figure for f & r sway with installation?
i have a 6MT and I am ok with the ride height and ride quality. but i do want to reduce some of the lean in turns. I do track day maybe 4 to 5 times a year.
should i simply go for adjustable sway instead of coilover? whats the ballpark figure for f & r sway with installation?
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humm .. so i read this thread thinking maybe sway is what i am looking for.
i have a 6MT and I am ok with the ride height and ride quality. but i do want to reduce some of the lean in turns. I do track day maybe 4 to 5 times a year.
should i simply go for adjustable sway instead of coilover? whats the ballpark figure for f & r sway with installation?
i have a 6MT and I am ok with the ride height and ride quality. but i do want to reduce some of the lean in turns. I do track day maybe 4 to 5 times a year.
should i simply go for adjustable sway instead of coilover? whats the ballpark figure for f & r sway with installation?
Sway bars I heard went up in price, and the X version now sells for about $395 shipped.
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This is what happened: I was the lead car in a pack of a couple cars, and I was going about 70mph on the freeway that has 4 lanes. There was a hill over a bridge, and it was also at night, so visibility is limited. Road was dry.
Once I went over the hill, there was this huge mattress/wooden structure staring me right in the face, so I swerved to the left quickly. What started happening is that my driver's side tires started to spin out when i swerved, so I tried correcting my swerve, but my back tires have already fishtailed, because my AWD system couldn't handle a big change in tire direction after that and all my tires were spinning in different speeds. Then, I did a full 360 and ended up stopping right at the left lane before the barrier. AWD system, while it helps, isn't perfect.
You can spin out on the highway if you swerve fast enough. Also, if I got a set of 18's or 19's, the rims would go bad almost immediately because of lower profile tires and there are so many potholes here.
Anyways, I got my Hotchkis Sway Bars 22443 for $360 shipped. Is that a good price?
Once I went over the hill, there was this huge mattress/wooden structure staring me right in the face, so I swerved to the left quickly. What started happening is that my driver's side tires started to spin out when i swerved, so I tried correcting my swerve, but my back tires have already fishtailed, because my AWD system couldn't handle a big change in tire direction after that and all my tires were spinning in different speeds. Then, I did a full 360 and ended up stopping right at the left lane before the barrier. AWD system, while it helps, isn't perfect.
You can spin out on the highway if you swerve fast enough. Also, if I got a set of 18's or 19's, the rims would go bad almost immediately because of lower profile tires and there are so many potholes here.
Anyways, I got my Hotchkis Sway Bars 22443 for $360 shipped. Is that a good price?
Only because we have those ridiculous 1/4 pipe style curbs in our hood lol
I have still yet to see you around town, lol. I did see a lowered, nicely modded G in Dubai near MOE about 2 weeks ago. Black, lowered, exhaust, rims non local driver.
I lived down in Yas for 2 weeks before moving up to Dubai but I work down in Old Shahama, Zayed Military City. I come down to that Etihad Plaza center for lunch from time to time. I think I may have seen your G in KCA one time I was riding through.
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Math, if your links are in good condition, you don't have to get beefier or new ones now.
However, as you've probably noted in my recent thread, my fronts have already gone out. I've had the Eibach Sways on the car for about a year, with a few laps at the track mixed in.
You have Whiteline, SPL and ModMe (Myg37 thread) for rear options. I have ModMe's and it's working out quite well so far. There is only SPL for the front, but every V36 user who's had them have complained about the noise from the Heim joints.
The sways and beefier endlinks will help with minimizing lean, for sure. But it probably wouldn't have avoided your spin-out on the freeway. It sounds to me like there was a bit of oversteer in your case, possibly coupled with less grippy tires. Granted, when you properly set-up the sways, you can change the characteristics of the vehicle to add a bit more understeer. (see chart)
Remember, too, that the more you tighten up the suspension, the grippier the tires you need to make the most out of it, otherwise the tires will give up faster since the suspension has no slack.
FWIW, i have been in contact with a manufacturer to develop adjustable fronts for us, but there's nothing else to report other than that yet.
However, as you've probably noted in my recent thread, my fronts have already gone out. I've had the Eibach Sways on the car for about a year, with a few laps at the track mixed in.
You have Whiteline, SPL and ModMe (Myg37 thread) for rear options. I have ModMe's and it's working out quite well so far. There is only SPL for the front, but every V36 user who's had them have complained about the noise from the Heim joints.
The sways and beefier endlinks will help with minimizing lean, for sure. But it probably wouldn't have avoided your spin-out on the freeway. It sounds to me like there was a bit of oversteer in your case, possibly coupled with less grippy tires. Granted, when you properly set-up the sways, you can change the characteristics of the vehicle to add a bit more understeer. (see chart)
Remember, too, that the more you tighten up the suspension, the grippier the tires you need to make the most out of it, otherwise the tires will give up faster since the suspension has no slack.
FWIW, i have been in contact with a manufacturer to develop adjustable fronts for us, but there's nothing else to report other than that yet.
I found this website: http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...d_Links//17338
They apparently have Whiteline Front Endlinks that are adjustable. In addition, I found this site: http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...d_Links//17338
They also have the fronts. Hopefully this helps someone who might be looking for both front and rear.
I just had my rear driver's side OEM endlink pop out of its socket when parking in my drive way. I have Hotchkis front and rear sways and the rear was set to medium. I do not track my car and frankly, I feel that I do not push it as far as I could. It seemed strange when I felt the pop and the car jolted but I was only parking. Seems as though I need some new endlinks.
They apparently have Whiteline Front Endlinks that are adjustable. In addition, I found this site: http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...d_Links//17338
They also have the fronts. Hopefully this helps someone who might be looking for both front and rear.
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Do they simply not fit at all in the front? It would be bad for someone to go to those sites with the impression that they would fit our cars and have them arrive and realize that it's not the case.
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