Stillen Gen 3 Ultra Long VS K&N Typhoon Dual CAI (Winter?)
#16
It's really your call. A better filter us a great idea but I don't know about the rest of the intake. WR catch cans, coolant overflow tanks and PS fluid tanks by them have failed due to poor welds, shoddy materials and premature rust in other car forums I belong to. So do what you feel is right but let us know what direction you go and how it works out for you.
#17
Takeda AFE also make a pretty neat CAI for 2008 G35. It is like Stillen Gen3 but with one big filter serving both left and right air intakes in front of radiator. It also has an optional splash shield which I would get to protect filter from water splashes etc. I like that portion that passes through radiator support is rubber tubing, Like Z1 intake. Maybe from performance standpoint, a solid, constant diameter metal pipe, as used on Stillen G3, is more desirable but I have read these metal intake tubes can rattle and buzz against radiator support they pass through and some damage their AC lines from interference with metal intake pipes. Both potential issues would drive me nuts.
Here is link Takeda AFE CAI. I have been thinking about this one for a few reasons: polished aluminum is clear coated so it will stay nice looking longer, Included are mounting brackets to hold filter and intakes in place up front. Takeda splash shield is an optional upcharge. I noticed Stillen G3 comes with splash shield and mounting bracket out front too. But not all CAI's do like Z1. Nor does Admin Tuning's 3" system (requires a tune also).
Thinking about the different features each comes with and what each costs may help you decide which to go with. I am leaning toward Takeda AFE or Z1 CAI.
I have been thinking about CAI and which to get. Haven't made up my mind yet. I do like the look of the Z1 system with blue tubes and fittings and their blue cone (K&N) oiled filters. Z1 website show dyno pulls on a 370Z before CAI, after CAI and then with CAI + tune = +32HP if I remember right. Not bad. They sound nice too. One thing seems clear and makes sense too is CAI's that perform best all pull air in from out front where there is cooler fresh air. Systems that place filters under the hood provide less performance improvement. But are easier to install and maintain.
Right now I am running stock intakes . Love the ease of maintenance with cassette style filters that pop in and out. I have been playing around with some aftermarket replacement air filters that fit stock airboxes. R2C, AFE, K&N, etc all make some. Right now I am trying the HKS Super Hybrid air filters. Can't really say I notice any difference compared to stock. I just hope they filter air properly!
Good luck!
Here is link Takeda AFE CAI. I have been thinking about this one for a few reasons: polished aluminum is clear coated so it will stay nice looking longer, Included are mounting brackets to hold filter and intakes in place up front. Takeda splash shield is an optional upcharge. I noticed Stillen G3 comes with splash shield and mounting bracket out front too. But not all CAI's do like Z1. Nor does Admin Tuning's 3" system (requires a tune also).
Thinking about the different features each comes with and what each costs may help you decide which to go with. I am leaning toward Takeda AFE or Z1 CAI.
I have been thinking about CAI and which to get. Haven't made up my mind yet. I do like the look of the Z1 system with blue tubes and fittings and their blue cone (K&N) oiled filters. Z1 website show dyno pulls on a 370Z before CAI, after CAI and then with CAI + tune = +32HP if I remember right. Not bad. They sound nice too. One thing seems clear and makes sense too is CAI's that perform best all pull air in from out front where there is cooler fresh air. Systems that place filters under the hood provide less performance improvement. But are easier to install and maintain.
Right now I am running stock intakes . Love the ease of maintenance with cassette style filters that pop in and out. I have been playing around with some aftermarket replacement air filters that fit stock airboxes. R2C, AFE, K&N, etc all make some. Right now I am trying the HKS Super Hybrid air filters. Can't really say I notice any difference compared to stock. I just hope they filter air properly!
Good luck!
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Takeda AFE also make a pretty neat CAI for 2008 G35. It is like Stillen Gen3 but with one big filter serving both left and right air intakes in front of radiator. It also has an optional splash shield which I would get to protect filter from water splashes etc. I like that portion that passes through radiator support is rubber tubing, Like Z1 intake. Maybe from performance standpoint, a solid, constant diameter metal pipe, as used on Stillen G3, is more desirable but I have read these metal intake tubes can rattle and buzz against radiator support they pass through and some damage their AC lines from interference with metal intake pipes. Both potential issues would drive me nuts.
Here is link Takeda AFE CAI. I have been thinking about this one for a few reasons: polished aluminum is clear coated so it will stay nice looking longer, Included are mounting brackets to hold filter and intakes in place up front. Takeda splash shield is an optional upcharge. I noticed Stillen G3 comes with splash shield and mounting bracket out front too. But not all CAI's do like Z1. Nor does Admin Tuning's 3" system (requires a tune also).
Thinking about the different features each comes with and what each costs may help you decide which to go with. I am leaning toward Takeda AFE or Z1 CAI.
I have been thinking about CAI and which to get. Haven't made up my mind yet. I do like the look of the Z1 system with blue tubes and fittings and their blue cone (K&N) oiled filters. Z1 website show dyno pulls on a 370Z before CAI, after CAI and then with CAI + tune = +32HP if I remember right. Not bad. They sound nice too. One thing seems clear and makes sense too is CAI's that perform best all pull air in from out front where there is cooler fresh air. Systems that place filters under the hood provide less performance improvement. But are easier to install and maintain.
Right now I am running stock intakes . Love the ease of maintenance with cassette style filters that pop in and out. I have been playing around with some aftermarket replacement air filters that fit stock airboxes. R2C, AFE, K&N, etc all make some. Right now I am trying the HKS Super Hybrid air filters. Can't really say I notice any difference compared to stock. I just hope they filter air properly!
Good luck!
Here is link Takeda AFE CAI. I have been thinking about this one for a few reasons: polished aluminum is clear coated so it will stay nice looking longer, Included are mounting brackets to hold filter and intakes in place up front. Takeda splash shield is an optional upcharge. I noticed Stillen G3 comes with splash shield and mounting bracket out front too. But not all CAI's do like Z1. Nor does Admin Tuning's 3" system (requires a tune also).
Thinking about the different features each comes with and what each costs may help you decide which to go with. I am leaning toward Takeda AFE or Z1 CAI.
I have been thinking about CAI and which to get. Haven't made up my mind yet. I do like the look of the Z1 system with blue tubes and fittings and their blue cone (K&N) oiled filters. Z1 website show dyno pulls on a 370Z before CAI, after CAI and then with CAI + tune = +32HP if I remember right. Not bad. They sound nice too. One thing seems clear and makes sense too is CAI's that perform best all pull air in from out front where there is cooler fresh air. Systems that place filters under the hood provide less performance improvement. But are easier to install and maintain.
Right now I am running stock intakes . Love the ease of maintenance with cassette style filters that pop in and out. I have been playing around with some aftermarket replacement air filters that fit stock airboxes. R2C, AFE, K&N, etc all make some. Right now I am trying the HKS Super Hybrid air filters. Can't really say I notice any difference compared to stock. I just hope they filter air properly!
Good luck!
Drop in K&N filters with stock air boxes have been proven to pick up power.
#22
Interesting. Never heard of that option/tuner before. I imagine they are similar to Administration Tuning's. They are basically bent 3" aluminum tubes with really big air filters on the end out front.Stock MAF sensors fit into them but they require a tune to work correctly.
#23
Interesting. Never heard of that option/tuner before. I imagine they are similar to Administration Tuning's. They are basically bent 3" aluminum tubes with really big air filters on the end out front.Stock MAF sensors fit into them but they require a tune to work correctly.
yea, going 3” does mean you a tune is necessary. I installed my intakes on site, my tuner, Martin from RS Enthalpy, did a throttle body relearn then loaded a base map to get it on the dyno. I prep the everything before hand so install with me quick
AAM makes a 2.75” Intake with an insert at the mag to be able to run the stock maf without a tune and removable to get the full potential of the 2.75” but will need a tune.
#24
I see intakes are still a hot topic. My two cents is unless you are going FBO with full exhaust etc, go K&N drop-ins. Infinity spent the time in R&D to design those boxes for a reason. Yes they may not be the absolute highest flowing, but the stock boxes are essentially CAI's. As far as sound you will not get a huge difference no matter which system you go with, especially if you mostly drive at lower rpms.
I'm stock with only drop in filters (just cleaned and re-oiled after 50K miles) and they do the job, also makes a cool blow off valve kind of noise under light-mid throttle when shifting around 4K Rpm.
I'm stock with only drop in filters (just cleaned and re-oiled after 50K miles) and they do the job, also makes a cool blow off valve kind of noise under light-mid throttle when shifting around 4K Rpm.
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Ohhh well in that case you're lucky to make any whp gains, modifications without a tune to support them is just a waste of time/money.
However if you tune the vehicle then yes intake only is a pretty substantial gain on both the HR and VHR, obviously it's much higher on the HR if you also add the ported plenum because those two just work well together.
However if you tune the vehicle then yes intake only is a pretty substantial gain on both the HR and VHR, obviously it's much higher on the HR if you also add the ported plenum because those two just work well together.
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In this case I'd have to disagree, look at Motorvate. He gained a documented 14whp peak (with gains across most of the power band) in controlled testing with only drop-in filters, no tune.
Sure tune can unlock even more power, but you're spending $700-$800 including dyno time. That's why nobody bothers getting it done with only intakes.
They wait until they have most or all the mods they plan on doing then go for the tune.
Sure tune can unlock even more power, but you're spending $700-$800 including dyno time. That's why nobody bothers getting it done with only intakes.
They wait until they have most or all the mods they plan on doing then go for the tune.
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Most of the cost of a tune is the initial license purchase, sure this might seem like a lot up front but dollar for dollar it's a very cost-effective way to increase vehicle power. Many people pay a lot more $ for a lot less power.
Follow-up tunes for additional modifications is usually an hour of a technicians time, $150 or so.
There's no reason to wait for a tune unless you are bolting on more mods within the same month.
EDIT: Ok I had to check out that video because I strongly doubted the claim, I have no idea how he managed to make that kind of power when pretty much ALL the people running 350Z's are only getting +5whp with a drop in filter replacement. I smell bullshit.
Double EDIT: "dyno proven" but only shows a made up graphic on the screen and not the ACTUAL dyno results...
Follow-up tunes for additional modifications is usually an hour of a technicians time, $150 or so.
There's no reason to wait for a tune unless you are bolting on more mods within the same month.
EDIT: Ok I had to check out that video because I strongly doubted the claim, I have no idea how he managed to make that kind of power when pretty much ALL the people running 350Z's are only getting +5whp with a drop in filter replacement. I smell bullshit.
Double EDIT: "dyno proven" but only shows a made up graphic on the screen and not the ACTUAL dyno results...
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In this case I'd have to disagree, look at Motorvate. He gained a documented 14whp peak (with gains across most of the power band) in controlled testing with only drop-in filters, no tune.
Sure tune can unlock even more power, but you're spending $700-$800 including dyno time. That's why nobody bothers getting it done with only intakes.
They wait until they have most or all the mods they plan on doing then go for the tune.
Sure tune can unlock even more power, but you're spending $700-$800 including dyno time. That's why nobody bothers getting it done with only intakes.
They wait until they have most or all the mods they plan on doing then go for the tune.
I see intakes are still a hot topic. My two cents is unless you are going FBO with full exhaust etc, go K&N drop-ins. Infinity spent the time in R&D to design those boxes for a reason. Yes they may not be the absolute highest flowing, but the stock boxes are essentially CAI's. As far as sound you will not get a huge difference no matter which system you go with, especially if you mostly drive at lower rpms.
I'm stock with only drop in filters (just cleaned and re-oiled after 50K miles) and they do the job, also makes a cool blow off valve kind of noise under light-mid throttle when shifting around 4K Rpm.
I'm stock with only drop in filters (just cleaned and re-oiled after 50K miles) and they do the job, also makes a cool blow off valve kind of noise under light-mid throttle when shifting around 4K Rpm.