Fuel economy and women
I have an '04 6mt which rated 27 on hwy and I the best I get 21mpg w/ mixed driving being VERY easy on the car. If I drive the car in my daily commute I would get 16-17mpg. Why have all that performance if you can't enjoy once in a while. I understand the perfomance/economy trade-off but they can do better.
Just for comparison consider this:
'06 BMW 750i/Li, about 4500lbs, 360hp, 360tq, 17/25mpg
And for those of you who are skeptical of mfg claims, my parent have an older '97 740iL and when they take it on trips they easily get into the mid 20's.
The VQ is getting old (since '95 Maxima) and is in dire need of major revamping/updated to make them a bit 'greener'. Hopefully the 80% new VQ will answer these issues. This gas situation is starting to hurt my pocket. I too might be looking over to BMW when I'm ready for a new car.
Just for comparison consider this:
'06 BMW 750i/Li, about 4500lbs, 360hp, 360tq, 17/25mpg
And for those of you who are skeptical of mfg claims, my parent have an older '97 740iL and when they take it on trips they easily get into the mid 20's.
The VQ is getting old (since '95 Maxima) and is in dire need of major revamping/updated to make them a bit 'greener'. Hopefully the 80% new VQ will answer these issues. This gas situation is starting to hurt my pocket. I too might be looking over to BMW when I'm ready for a new car.
Originally Posted by 04NismoV35
I have an '04 6mt which rated 27 on hwy and I the best I get 21mpg w/ mixed driving being VERY easy on the car. If I drive the car in my daily commute I would get 16-17mpg. Why have all that performance if you can't enjoy once in a while. I understand the perfomance/economy trade-off but they can do better.
Just for comparison consider this:
'06 BMW 750i/Li, about 4500lbs, 360hp, 360tq, 17/25mpg
And for those of you who are skeptical of mfg claims, my parent have an older '97 740iL and when they take it on trips they easily get into the mid 20's.
The VQ is getting old (since '95 Maxima) and is in dire need of major revamping/updated to make them a bit 'greener'. Hopefully the 80% new VQ will answer these issues. This gas situation is starting to hurt my pocket. I too might be looking over to BMW when I'm ready for a new car.
Just for comparison consider this:
'06 BMW 750i/Li, about 4500lbs, 360hp, 360tq, 17/25mpg
And for those of you who are skeptical of mfg claims, my parent have an older '97 740iL and when they take it on trips they easily get into the mid 20's.
The VQ is getting old (since '95 Maxima) and is in dire need of major revamping/updated to make them a bit 'greener'. Hopefully the 80% new VQ will answer these issues. This gas situation is starting to hurt my pocket. I too might be looking over to BMW when I'm ready for a new car.
Yesterday I put a deposit on 07 Camry hybrid. You can start flaming, but keep in mind 0-60 is 7.3 sec and 40/38 city/highway mileage.
Look for yourself:
http://toyotanation.com/forum/showth...38#post1189638
Last edited by MOTOP; Apr 24, 2006 at 03:26 PM.
If you can spend $40k-$50k for a car, I have a hard time beleiving you guys can't afford gas for it. Unless you bought the car with min. down payment, if thats the case then your buying a car you can't afford to begin with. Gotta use some common sense when buying a car. Just because you can qualify for the loan does not mean you can afford it.
Just some food for thought...
Just some food for thought...
Originally Posted by G35keg
If you can spend $40k-$50k for a car, I have a hard time beleiving you guys can't afford gas for it. Unless you bought the car with min. down payment, if thats the case then your buying a car you can't afford to begin with. Gotta use some common sense when buying a car. Just because you can qualify for the loan does not mean you can afford it.
Just some food for thought...
Just some food for thought...
I think many ppl who can afford this type of car comfortably will have a concern with the mileage as gas prices hover above 3 dollars.
kki000, couldn't agree with you more. There's nothing wrong with being frugal while being wealthy. I explicitly started my posts in this topic stating that I can afford $5/gal. As a matter of fact I frequently go to the UK where I have a lot of relatives and $6.7/gallon is what I pay when I drive over there.
Originally Posted by kki000
Wow, awfully condescending... Yer point might be valid if all other cars in this price range were gas guzzlers, but the acura, lexus and bmw 3 series all have much better gas mileage and are in or near the same price category.
I think many ppl who can afford this type of car comfortably will have a concern with the mileage as gas prices hover above 3 dollars.
I think many ppl who can afford this type of car comfortably will have a concern with the mileage as gas prices hover above 3 dollars.
As for what he said. yesterday i achived 35mph... for a whole 10min drive going avg 53 on a 45mph zone. but i was trying to get a good mpg...
other then that im low 20's if not below just driving normally. I get around 14-16 having fun with it...
So, you guys may think you've got it bad preformance/mpg ratio, but i think your fine.
Even people who can easily afford $5 won't feel good every time they fill up. Most people today who buy/lease a $33-40K vehicle are not "rich" (not even close in most cases) and are sensitive to high gas prices when combined with all of their other numerous expenses.
Well, let's wait and see. It does look like Nissan addressed one of the two major complaints with the improved interior so maybe there's more to come.
Well, let's wait and see. It does look like Nissan addressed one of the two major complaints with the improved interior so maybe there's more to come.
Originally Posted by dampfnudel
Even people who can easily afford $5 won't feel good every time they fill up.
Originally Posted by Sutitan
Well, i may be on a G35 forum, but i do own a 04 Acura TL (planning on a G very very soon)
As for what he said. yesterday i achived 35mph... for a whole 10min drive going avg 53 on a 45mph zone. but i was trying to get a good mpg...
other then that im low 20's if not below just driving normally. I get around 14-16 having fun with it...
So, you guys may think you've got it bad preformance/mpg ratio, but i think your fine.
As for what he said. yesterday i achived 35mph... for a whole 10min drive going avg 53 on a 45mph zone. but i was trying to get a good mpg...
other then that im low 20's if not below just driving normally. I get around 14-16 having fun with it...
So, you guys may think you've got it bad preformance/mpg ratio, but i think your fine.
I used to own an '03 G35 and I never got better than 21mpg doing the same driving as the above.
Infiniti has a gap to close here ... no question about it. As I consider an '07/'08 G35 coming from a TL this will be a factor for me and others I would guess.
Sorry if this is a re-post, but FYI on Infiniti's Launch Site for the new G sedan, they state that the new engine boasts better performance AND "increased efficiency. " This means that they have at least adressed the issue somewhat- to what extent is the question now. Like most of you, I am somewhat concerned about the milage not because of economic issues, but mostly because Infiniti is lagging behind that area, and it is never wrong to be frugal or evniormentally-friendly.
My predicted 07 mpg ratings : 20/26 Estimated hp: 310 (barely enough to be ahead of Lexus)
For Comparison, Lexus IS350 : 21/28 306hp
Not that it's all about sheer numbers. Power at the wheels is still the most important, not just bhp.
My predicted 07 mpg ratings : 20/26 Estimated hp: 310 (barely enough to be ahead of Lexus)
For Comparison, Lexus IS350 : 21/28 306hp
Not that it's all about sheer numbers. Power at the wheels is still the most important, not just bhp.
Last thing to add. I'm fairly disapointed in 2007 sedan because it features the same 5-speed automatic. Adding 6th gear while keeping existing gear ratios would have been the best improvement in fuel economy department. I want to see sub 2k rpm cruising at 65-70 mph.
Originally Posted by G35keg
If you can spend $40k-$50k for a car, I have a hard time beleiving you guys can't afford gas for it. Unless you bought the car with min. down payment, if thats the case then your buying a car you can't afford to begin with. Gotta use some common sense when buying a car. Just because you can qualify for the loan does not mean you can afford it.
Just some food for thought...
Just some food for thought...
I can also afford to pay $3 dollars for a can of coke, but why should I? Gas prices are skyrocketing while gas companies post record profits and their CEO's retire with 400million pensions. There is nothing wrong with people complaining. Moreover, most wealthy people I know are pretty frugal.
Back on topic....the G35 needs to close the fuel efficiency gap. Toyota is really putting Nissan to shame with their new 3.5L engine. Not only is fuel efficient, but they managed to slash its production cost in half (search for the bloomberg article)
Originally Posted by MOTOP
I would have had no problem with 16.5mpg if my car sticker were to say so.
G35 by far has the most off-base EPA estimate I've ever seen.
G35 by far has the most off-base EPA estimate I've ever seen.
I average 21.5 - 22 mpg in my 05 6 speed.
avg xxx means nothing, whats your avg speed through the tank(Which we cant get) and also what mix do you drive at, whats your usual speed, everything matters, i drive about 50-50 and get bad really bad mileage..but i have tons and tons of says where i am stuck in chicago traffic, so that matters, my corvette is giving the same, even when i am pushing it harder most of the time..i get 17mpg from G35 which is sad, they should add a CAGS like the corvette and through in a cylinder deactivation as well to get that level to may be 5mpgs better..
Originally Posted by G35keg
You must have a heavy foot... I check my MPG everytime I fill up and im getting 19 mpg around town and when I make long trips on the highway I get close to 26 mpg. Although I do have the MT6, not sure that makes a difference but it might..
If I'm hard on the car around town I can go as low as 17, but normally I get about 19 on pure city (start/stop/idle/maximum 40MPH/3.5 mile) commute.




