G37 Coupe V36 2008+ Discussion about the G37 Coupe

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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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A loaded 335i Coupe MSRP should be about $46k, with invoice at about $42k. I have one big issue with the 335i, no LSD, not even as an option nor included in the sport package. In the rain and spirited corners, the LSD really makes a big difference.
The 335i loaded will cost over 46k personally i wouldnt buy a fully loaded 335i. I would remove the 1200+ active steering and the 2200 adaptive cruise control. so figure on a fully loaded 335i to be around 50-52k and invoice around 4k less then that.

yes missing the LSD is a problem, yes the HP fuel pumps are a problem, yes the oil cooler is being resolved, yes the oil gauge is a problem. if i was a normal person I'd go for the G37... but the 335i isnt too much more expensive then the G37 when shopping fully loaded and the G37 is at MSRP.

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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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I am compelled to add a personal observation about the 335i that really eerks me. I see new bimmers all of the time in my neck of the woods and every time the tail lights just really annoy me. So simple and old fashion (might as well be a Chevy or Ford cheapo model). No LED lights. It really ruins the appearance of the car, IMHO.
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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It really ruins the appearance of the car, IMHO.
IMHO the appearance of that car looks like bland.. for that money i want something that looks sportier than a civic! there is nothing about a three series apprearance which sets it apart from any other car on the road. you buy a 3series bmw for the way it drives and the name.. not for its looks... at least that's how i see the world.
 
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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IMHO the appearance of that car looks like bland.. for that money i want something that looks sportier than a civic! there is nothing about a three series apprearance which sets it apart from any other car on the road. you buy a 3series bmw for the way it drives and the name.. not for its looks... at least that's how i see the world.
I must agree. When i make a comparison between the two and look at what they bring forth, i have not seen anything so far that is driving me more toward the 335i than the G37.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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Just some FYI: Nissan VPP won't be offered for the first "several' months after the G37 is released. It is a an "inventory issue". I spoke with the VPP dept today. Geeze, to get a FAIR deal on a G37 may take a few months once it is released. Oh well..
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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Why would anyone ever listen to sales people/managers? They know less then any normal enthusiast on these forums and make things up all the time. I laugh at the OP.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DropTopGal
A loaded 335i Coupe MSRP should be about $46k, with invoice at about $42k. I have one big issue with the 335i, no LSD, not even as an option nor included in the sport package. In the rain and spirited corners, the LSD really makes a big difference.

Also, I'd hold off for a 2008 335i as many of the more serious bugs would have been worked out (fuel pumps, oil temp/over heating).

Oh, $1k price difference on typical financing (with good credit) is more than $10/month. More like $17 to $20/month depending on interest rate. Since I pay cash, to me, I see the money go immediately, so not getting the best deal possible hits home (and hurts the ego), unlike those who pay "just" another 20 bucks more a month.

BTW... I drove a 2007 Lexus IS350 with sport package today. Impression: Simply Wonderful! It handled great and the steering feel was terrific (Car & Driver must have been hungover with BMW execs during their eval). Fit and finish was better than Infiniti (G35x) and BMW (335i). The engine was not thrashy, more like a finely tuned sewing machine (which is a good thing). One thing kept comming to mind....quality, quality, quality. I don't care for 4 door sedans, but this one looked very sporty. It sure didn't handle like a sedan. There is an HKS exhaust option from Lexus that adds a nice sporty sound. The 6 speed paddles were GREAT! Click, click, click...no hesitation through the gears and changing gears was smooth. The 18" wheels should have been 19" and wider, but they held the road. Oh, almost forgot...the Mark Levinson stereo is probably one of the best that I have ever listened to. Even at high volume there was no distortion. I listened to songs and heard music sounds of the song that I didn't even know where there. The navigation is good, but I like the Infiniti nav better (45 degree view) and Lexus does not let nav adjustments when the car is in gear.

Droptop,

If you are referring to my $10 estimate: In my message, I was referring to a lease, not financing or buying outright. My initial reaction was this: In a lease you only pay a portion of the car's value, so you may not get the whole savings back (hence, $10/month or $360 over the lease). I then corrected myself as I realized residuals are based on the MSRP, so a savings of 1k on a negotiated price saves you the full 1k over the course of the lease. My bad.

In terms of the IS, we own a RX330, and I was getting it serviced yesterday so they gave me an IS250 AWD. I always seem to get one of those. Anyway, my impression of the car is very different than yours. I have no idea what all the hoopla is over the interior of the car. The whole console is cheap gray plastic. The "cherry wood" in the loaner looked el cheapo. The car has a weird onand just off-center feel - meaning when you're cruising on the highway, the car tends to sway left to right. WHen you try and correct it with a small movement of the steering wheel, nothing happens for the first degree of movement. That vagueness in the steering was a big turnoff. I expect it in my RX, but not in their IS series. Once going though, it handles very well and I had the same impression as you (what are these magazines talking about?). The engine obviously blows, but then again it is the 250 with the added weight of AWD (I have no idea how anyone buys a 250 unless you need AWD). It's tight inside as well, at least for a sedan. You live with that in a coupe or sportier car, but in a sedan? Overall, the IS does not impress me at all. Maybe a fully loaded IS350 version would change my mind, but I have to imagine that the general steering feel would not change.

Regarding the 335 - Loaded it is over 50k, not 46k. Coupe with NAV, Premium, Sport, Heated seats, comfort access, metallic paint is about $48+ (with 6-speed - auto brings you to 50k). That doesn't even add in the active steering, cruise control, IPOD integration, or backup system. I would only get the NAV because the bluetooth is included and without it you pay around $750 anyway. Overall their NAV system is TERRIBLE.

Long post - but then again I've been gone for a few hours....
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DropTopGal
Since I pay cash, to me, I see the money go immediately, so not getting the best deal possible hits home (and hurts the ego), unlike those who pay "just" another 20 bucks more a month.
I will be doing the same, pay cash upfront. I have been saving for a long time for this car so not gonna get screwed over that easily.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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I test drove an IS 350. The salesman was talking so much that I didn't get a chance to really drive the car. I floored it a few times and the upshifts were nice using the manual option. Overall it was ok but I didn't like the way that the manual shift selcection is only a top-gear selector instead of a current gear selector. The car would downshift on it's own when you floored it and when you stopped you would have to use the shifter to match the gear that the car had already selected- that was annoying.
The ride was nice, the car felt tight and well built. The interior however was just ok. It wasn't bad but it wasn't all that great either. There was still plenty of plastic which is expected of an entry level luxury car starting in the $30s- nothing to write home about.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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I test drove an IS 350. The salesman was talking so much that I didn't get a chance to really drive the car. I floored it a few times and the upshifts were nice using the manual option.

I've been driving a manual transmission for so long, that driving an automatic seems boring. It just takes away too much from the driving experience of a sporty car. So unfortunately there are many cars that are appealing to me, but I rule out because they aren't available with a manual tranny.
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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I test drove an IS 350. The salesman was talking so much that I didn't get a chance to really drive the car. I floored it a few times and the upshifts were nice using the manual option.

(2)I've been driving a manual transmission for so long, that driving an automatic seems boring. It just takes away too much from the driving experience of a sporty car. So unfortunately there are many cars that are appealing to me, but I rule out because they aren't available with a manual tranny.
Agree 100% with (2)!!!

AT has its place, of course, as in: "Long daily commutes in nasty, rotten traffic." Also, some folks have tried manual trannies and don't like 'em. That's OK if that's their choice. It IS nice to be able to have choices in life.

I think this quote seen on another forum speaks volumes:
"Life is too short to drive boring automobiles!"
 
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Old May 17, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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I feel the same way as you guys regarding MT, after all, flicking the stick is both fun and habit forming. BUTTT, consider this... flicking a stick that is raw due to poor engagement, well, how rewarding can that be? Then one takes a look at the other option, playing with the paddles, which are smooth.

Today I saw both an IS350 and G35 side by side at an intersection. The G35 was certainly more sporty.
 
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Old May 18, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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Today I saw both an IS350 and G35 side by side at an intersection. The G35 was certainly more sporty.

Let's face it, the only thing that the G35 doesn't have is the status of the high end cars like Porsche. But if you look at what you get for the money, there's absolutely no comparison. IMO the G35 and G37 are two of the best looking cars on the market regardless of price. Granted the interior of the G35 isn't all that great, but from what I've read Infiniti addressed that issue in the G37.

My wife is in the market for a convertible, so we checked out the Boxster. Since she's interested more in MPG than power, we didn't look at the Boxster S. We found a moderately equipped Boxster for $52K that the Dealer was willing to discount to $49K. So for $49K you get a two seat car with a 5 speed transmission and a 243 HP engine. On the plus side the fit and finish of the Boxster's interior and exterior was first class, and the paint job was about as good as it gets, but man $49K is a lot to pay for a 243 HP car with a 5 speed tranny. BTW a six speed is a costly option on the Boxster.

So if you want that prestigious marque, you better be prepared to pay top dollar. On the other hand if you want a great looking car that has decent performance and is moderately price, how can you go wrong with either the G35 or G37.
 
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Old May 18, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypnoz
Why would anyone ever listen to sales people/managers? They know less then any normal enthusiast on these forums and make things up all the time. I laugh at the OP.
thats not a good stereotype

and a lot of people can vouch for me on this one
 
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Old May 19, 2007 | 03:02 AM
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Hello
I was contacted by my dealer today and he gave me the following info for the 08 coupe.I am 2nd on the list to get the new coupe I ordered a fully loaded 6MT LP.

He informed me that my dealership will only be receiving 1 coupe in Aug and someone else beat me to it but it is an AT anyway with a few options on it
so I really did not care. My car will be ordered with in the first two weeks of June for a July build and hopefully a Aug or Sept delivery again the dealer is only getting 1 and it will be mine. Looks like Infiniti is rolling out the new coupe very slowly.

Oh well I was told told extend the lease on my 06 coupe a month at a time so I ll do that and wait patiently until me arrives it is kind of cool that I will have one of the first cars in the state barring any out of state buyers lol
 
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