In regards to the Nissan 6MT in the G and Z.

The high clutch engagement point can be adjusted through the clutch pedal. I've done so over 3 years ago and no problem so far. The long travel of the G coupe drove me crazy because I had to lift up my entire leg whenever stepping on the clutch. No such problem after I lowered the clutch.

The Nissan shifter is notchy and vibrates a lot because Nissan engineers decided against a rubber insulationon the shifter assembly. The result is a very direct, precise and vibrating shifter in the G and Z. They have done this deliberately just like the exhaust notes on these cars. It takes some time to get used to, but it works for these cars. I agree that the S2000 shifter feels better, then again the Honda transmission would be shattered to pieces by the VQ35DE. BMW manual tranny on the other hand, feels very rubbery, inprecise, long and anemic for my taste.

 

I think Stefanzo needs some guidance.

Coming from the same page as Droptopgal as an S2000 owner, that car is about as much fun as can you have south of a Ferrari or 911 GT3.

The 335i and S2000 have far superior 6MTs compared to the 07 G35c.
And BMW is not overpriced. It's a great car. That's why it's so much more expensive, selling like mad, and the dealers are hardly negotiating... Is everybody else retarded, but you see clearly?

All in all, I am going with a 6MT. But it's a pretty crappy setup as far as 6MTs go, IMO.

** Edit - - Above, you think the S2000 transmission would be shattered from the G/Z engine? Why, because of their power/torque? Umm, have you ever heard of S2000s with blowers and turbos running over 400hp/300tq to the wheels with no transmission problems? If not, research before you speak.

 

[QUOTE=wyatthanson]I think Stefanzo needs some guidance.

<Coming from the same page as Droptopgal as an S2000 owner, that car is about as much fun as can you have south of a Ferrari or 911 GT3.">

Well-said, wyatthanson!

Like you and DropTopGal, I have an S2000. It is never boring and I will miss the superb, quick, precise handling when the S is replaced by a new G37.

I have driven Boxster S, Carrera 911, Carrera 911 Turbo, BMW M3 and a few other nice cars. Believe it, an S2K is about as much fun as you can have for anything short of some of the "Loti" and the real exotics.

I just HAVE to comment on crappy shifters: Had a used 1974 SAAB two-door 4MT in 1977. That shifter felt like a lollypop stick in a puddle of Jello! It was the worst shifter I've ever owned. These SAABs also ate up hydraulic clutch master cylinders like crazy... 'thoroughly wretched automobiles,' as the Brits might say. I was happy as hell when I dumped it for $200! I'm sure the new ones are a lot better, just not my cup of tea anymore.

 

I am considering the 335 and yes it is overpriced. I know that going in. Unfortunately, there aren't many choices that fit what I am looking for. Just because they are "selling like mad" doesn't mean it's a superior product. Most people are buying 328s, not 335s. Basically, people are looking to get into a BMW brand product without spending alot of money (and getting alot less). BMW sold about 3,600 335s (combined coupes and sedans) in April, and 9,000 328s. Since they are so superior, they should be selling alot more 335s.

Like I've said, I've driven the 335 and its clutch take up is worse than my 04 G35. The shifter did not vibrate though and felt smoother going through the gears. Overall, preferred it's action to that of the G. It's not the best either. The G feels sportier, and the clicking through the gears was nice in my opinion. It's just that I prefer smooth over sporty - at least for shifting.

 

Good point. "Far superior?" rather a matter of preference, no the BMW is not a better car, i know the headache of owning one that's all.
As far as the honda S2000, it's arguably one of the best roadster on the road but most Hondas are blah although very well built. Hey people don't take it personal, it's just cars we're talking about...

 

Mt

 

Hopefully, as early reports have stated, they are refining the 6MT in the 08 G37. I do not like the current 6MT in the coupe or 350z. There's no excuse for the shifter vibration in a car at this price range.

 

Why should our opinions matter? What's fun for "us", might be boring to you; What's practical for "some", might be useless to you.

What im trying to say is, I doubt our opinions matter since everyone has different preferences & needs.

As for me, practicality is not an issue. I chose 6MT for its fun-factor.

Trust me, choose what suits you best, not what by our preference. You might make a decision that you might regret.

Take your time, and test drive both when they're available and ask yourself what you really want.

Goodluck!

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Yeah the fun factor - to me is not lost with the auto G. With other cars I have driven it was more fun in the MT to me. What is sporty to some may nto be to others. The bottomline as other posters have mentioned is to make sure that YOU are happy with it.

 

Well thanks for your opinion guys, I'm contemplating because i'm afriad if i go for the auto after couple of months down the road, i don't want to tell myself Why? Why? Why?. And knowing myself there are many times i just want to go out and just drive. Ya feel me? Lol.

But on the other hand I'm thinking of the L.A. traffic and in cases i have a hang over or mean ol headaches or just being with the family i would probably prefer not driving a stick.

Anyways, thanks for your opinion guys. I'm sure i will pick out my best preference when the deal is made. Also i'm thinking of using my current car as a daily so i shall think about it. Oh and no doubt i will post a pic of my car on here after modding it some.

 

The lower version always sells more. Look up the numbers on a C230 vs C320. Or FX/M 35 vs 45 versions. No good in just throwing that out there for the 3 series alone.

I too will look at the 335, even though it is more expensive. I actually like it more. I never said it was superior, but I think it's worth the dollar, as does the general public. However, I will not consider the 328 version. But I do stand by the fact that it's not inferior as implied before. I believe the G37 is a better VALUE, though.

 

They are retarded for buying a $45,000 RWD sports sedan that doesn't have LSD. That's such an insignificant cost that it completely blows my mind why it is missing. The apparent reason for its absence is insulting too: to not cut into M3 sales? Come on BMW, that just pisses me off even more. I'll take my business elsewhere.

 

Well just so you know if I were getting a Ferrari or Lambo it would be a hard sell for me to get the F1 tranny because those don't have clutches. I like the clutch. I like swooshing the gears. I like feeling the power through my feet.

I will admit rush hour traffic is not fun with a clutch, but if the engine has enough torque it doesn't matter. My '97 Jeep MT was just fine as I usually just kept it in 3rd gear. Even from a stop a launch was really easy.

 

I agree, it's a raping to not have LSD. But, it'll still take off faster than a G37 I bet, and an LSD can be bought aftermarket for I think $2500. I know, I know, but that's German tuning for ya. Gotta pay to play.

Doesn't the Cayman S also lack an LSD? Is every Cayman S owner super-retarded for buying a $65K sports car without it?

 

German cars are overpriced - service repairs overpriced, reliability: questionable, not my opinion, facts. If I hurt some feelings, sorry but the truth need to come out. I don't hate Bimmers or Benz, I think most people overestimate their value and reliability. Sure they look good but with more and more competition and problems piling up, they are selling less. They appear more and more mundane to the car buff who knows value when he sees it.