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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 02:47 PM
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Oil dripping as car is running. What could it be? 04 G35 Coupe AT 180XXX Miles

oil dripping onto hot exhaust pipe and smoking and then and leaking onto subframe near back of engine before pooling onto the ground. No valve cover leak (just replaced) and I just replaced oil cooler gasket. What could it possibly be now
 
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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 03:00 PM
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Sounds like a valve cover leak. If you just replaced it, double check that something didn't get pinched during install causing a bad seal. Seal could have slipped out of the cover while setting it down, especially in a hard to see corner.

Once you triple check that, start looking for where it's coming from. Spray the area with brake cleaner so it's "dry", then check it after running for a bit. The o-ring around the cam sensors at the back of the head were leaking on mine. Noticed it while changing the clutch.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 03:22 PM
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Buy a telescoping inspection mirror and a good flashlight. Look around until you find where it's leaking from.

Protip: shine the flashlight on the mirror and it reflects the light onto the surface you're looking at.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 05:13 PM
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Sounds like a valve cover leak. If you just replaced it, double check that something didn't get pinched during install causing a bad seal. Seal could have slipped out of the cover while setting it down, especially in a hard to see corner.

Once you triple check that, start looking for where it's coming from. Spray the area with brake cleaner so it's "dry", then check it after running for a bit. The o-ring around the cam sensors at the back of the head were leaking on mine. Noticed it while changing the clutch.
my valve cover gasket had blown out. I assume high pressure due to a buildup of frozen condensation clogging my catch can setup since it’s winter in MD right now. Gonna go with stock PCV setup w new OEM pcv valve and slap another gasket on and see if it happens again. Thanks for all advice. But do any of you think it could be a deeper problem than just a clogged pcv system? I didn’t have this problem in the summer
 
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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 06:27 PM
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Take off the PCV valve and see if it's all clogged up but I doubt that's the problem, you would have to clog up BOTH heads for there to actually be a problem like that.

However I would definitely get an inspection mirror in there first to verify EXACTLY where the oil is coming from.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 08:50 PM
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Take off the PCV valve and see if it's all clogged up but I doubt that's the problem, you would have to clog up BOTH heads for there to actually be a problem like that.

However I would definitely get an inspection mirror in there first to verify EXACTLY where the oil is coming from.
Well I know the oil was leaking from a higher area as it was dripping onto the exhaust manifold before going down to the subframe. Took off the air box to get a clear view of the of the valve covers and bam. A piece of the gasket hanging out with oil flowing from where the gasket was supposed to be. So I know that’s the source but I know blown valve cover gaskets are usually linked to pressure and these are new gaskets I had just put on a few days ago too. The only thing I have on the car that could affect the pressure of the system is the catch can system. I’m installing another gasket tomorrow with stock pcv setup to see if anything happens. If it happens again then I know I have to look into a pressure test to see if anything is getting past the piston rings or if there’s a crack somewhere in the block or something but I doubt it. I don’t think it’s that common but only time will tell.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 12:11 PM
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Just out of curiousity are you using any rtv sealant? If so are you making sure to let it cure for 24 hours +/- depending on ambient temperature before driving? Also, did you thoroughly clean the gasket surfaces on both sides with brake cleaner before installing?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by cleric670@gmail
Just out of curiousity are you using any rtv sealant? If so are you making sure to let it cure for 24 hours +/- depending on ambient temperature before driving? Also, did you thoroughly clean the gasket surfaces on both sides with brake cleaner before installing?
Yes I'm using RTV as indicated in the service manual and allowing it to cure before operation. I also made sure to remove all old RTV and thoroughly clean with brake cleaner afterwards.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 01:08 PM
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Yes I'm using RTV as indicated in the service manual and allowing it to cure before operation. I also made sure to remove all old RTV and thoroughly clean with brake cleaner afterwards.
I put a dab of rtv every few inches on the valve cover and then put the gasket on and put some weight on the cover and let it cure for about an hour so the gasket doesn't shift position while putting it back in, especially the corners
At least it's the driver side and not the passenger. Half the work
 
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 01:10 PM
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I put a dab of rtv every few inches on the valve cover and then put the gasket on and put some weight on the cover and let it cure for about an hour so the gasket doesn't shift position while putting it back in, especially the corners
At least it's the driver side and not the passenger. Half the work
I utilize the same tactic
 
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 05:39 PM
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I used just rtv and no other gasket, the FSM doesn't call for a rubber gasket. Typically a rubber gasket is for installations that can't wait for the rtv to cure overnight.

It's a trade off, rubber gasket can be driven immediately but will fail sooner, rtv requires a cure time but lasts longer. Certainly no harm in using both though and on some installations it's easier to use dabs of rtv on a rubber gasket to hold it in place in cramped working quarters.

How long did it operate properly before blowing out the gasket?
 
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 12:34 AM
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I'm not 100% sure when it blew but i know it was sometime right after installation. I just replaced the gasket and have the stock pcv setup on the car as well. Will let you know how it holds up by the end of the week.
 
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