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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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SFR New Ram CAI

We finished designing and making the Gen2 Intakes for the G35/350Z today, and its mounted on my G. I will have dyno numbers in about 2 weeks on our dyno day to see what gains if any have been achieved. The Butt Dyno does see mid-high end improvement. These will be $200 if anyone wants one. But, you also have the option, if you want a true CAI into the fender, it will be $250. its very quiet at idle, low cruise speeds, and anytime you dont open it up. But once you open it up past 4000rpms, its SCREAMS! Here are some pics
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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What kind of car do you have? Year? Transmission?

Are you going to revert back to stock for a baseline? Do you already have a baseline? If so, what were the conditions for the baseline, and will the conditions be comparable to your dynoday?

Any plans on dyno'ing this thing on an 05/06 revup? Same questions about before/after, baselines, etc.

Do you have any plans to test how it operates in conjuntion with other breather/exhaust mods(plenum, cats, etc)? Also applies to revup motors.

Also what material is that? Have you been able to measure intake temps? At idle? WOT? How does it cool down? How heat conductive is it?

These questions are not meant to be pointed. It's just that theres too little *empirical* information about many mods, particularly from the mods' vendors/manufacturers. If you can do the due dilligence and collect these types of metrics, you will be doing everyone a great service, even if the results end up not being very promising.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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You need a heatshield i guess? ..
Since it is not really a CAI but a Ram air design.. you would
really wanna consider a heat shield to prevent heat soak

good luck with the dyno
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by trey.hutcheson
What kind of car do you have? Year? Transmission?

Are you going to revert back to stock for a baseline? Do you already have a baseline? If so, what were the conditions for the baseline, and will the conditions be comparable to your dynoday?

Any plans on dyno'ing this thing on an 05/06 revup? Same questions about before/after, baselines, etc.

Do you have any plans to test how it operates in conjuntion with other breather/exhaust mods(plenum, cats, etc)? Also applies to revup motors.

Also what material is that? Have you been able to measure intake temps? At idle? WOT? How does it cool down? How heat conductive is it?

These questions are not meant to be pointed. It's just that theres too little *empirical* information about many mods, particularly from the mods' vendors/manufacturers. If you can do the due dilligence and collect these types of metrics, you will be doing everyone a great service, even if the results end up not being very promising.
Its an 04 5AT. I have a baseline Dyno already. and unless there is some freak weather, it should be about the same conditions for the Dyno day since the weather doesnt change much throughout the year in SD. I Just made this today, so i havent been able to test it with any other mods yet. right now, the car is bone stock except for this intake. and the way I made it, its basically a short CAI due to how the filter is curved downwards into the fenders, but not completely submerged into it. its made out of aluminum as well. This Design has ONLY been put on an 04 auto. But for the dyno day, if there is a 6mt there that is basically stock, I will put it on it for a dyno run to see what difference there is between the 2. i will see about checking the temps next week, I didnt have time today to check.
 
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by godmans
You need a heatshield i guess? ..
Since it is not really a CAI but a Ram air design.. you would
really wanna consider a heat shield to prevent heat soak

good luck with the dyno
I will check the temps next week, but i dont think heat soak will be much of an issue on this design if the motor is a WOT, but i will see what i can figure out. maybe i will just do the temp testing on the dyno day
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Intake looks really good i have to admit and i do like the funnel effect after the filter.

I do have a few questions and comments.

Question is... is it supported to the manifold like the Z tube or the stock box? or is it only held by the throttle body?
is it all 1 peice or multiple pieces? How thick is the intake piping?

Comment.. by the position of your filter i would agree that with others on heat soak. You should make a shield to block of the filter from the ening. That part of the engine bay gets pretty warm.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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its mounted only to the throttle body. I dont recall the thickness of the aluminum. after i take some temp tests, ill see if a shield is needed
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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R u serious? see where it says post reply, on the previous page where it lists the threads, there is a New thread tab you click
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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after looking closer at the intake, you guys are right, there most likely is some heatsoak. Maybe this weekend if i have time, ill make a shield for it out of alluminum
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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^^^ importroller - So, the SFR Short Ram Intake will be $200 with heatshield. Very interested in your dyno results on a 5AT. Please post after the Dec. 10th Dyno Day.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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i definitely need to see the numbers w/ details.
looks pretty good and looks pretty simple. i like it
 
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Old Nov 28, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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^^^ importroller - So, the SFR Short Ram Intake will be $200 with heatshield. Very interested in your dyno results on a 5AT. Please post after the Dec. 10th Dyno Day.

not with heatshield, i havent even designed it yet, so the heatshield may have multiple variations, so as of now, Heatshield is not included. Im loving this intake though at anything pass 1/4 throttle. very throaty, but if you dont get on it, its whisper quiet. I didnt drive it to work today since i took the alty, so i didnt get a chance to look over how i would design it. and all the Gs at the shop are TTed, so i cant make a good mockup off them. But, if i can get good results of this, I will see if i can set up a GB for 10 of these that will be powdercoated and specially numbered for the Limited Edition. But, that is after i have the full setup just the way I want it. so give me a lil time after the dyno day to see what i can do

BTW, last dyno day i did the baseline, and the G spiked out at 244whp, but stayed pretty steady around 225whp. so im looking at the gains above 225whp since that is what the car puts down consistently
 

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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 02:48 AM
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A GB would be great. Very interested in your dyno results and GB, let me know.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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I hate to come off as negative, but it looks just like my K/N Typhoon intake. Low-end power/torque loss was dramatic. Reset the ECU, still no good. Took it off the next day.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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the basic design isnt gonna be much different, there are only so many ways to make the piping. but it looks like there are more parts to the K/N system, ours, only hase 1 pipe, 1 filter, 1 fitting, and 3 clamps.
 
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