Just Ordered the Stillen Catback
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Originally Posted by JustBrilliantX
Just buy my exhaust for around $29,000 and I'll throw in my 11,650 mile old car and APS plenum
Actually I was wondering if I could borrow your "helper" to assist me with my install. I am sure he knows a lot more about this stuff than I do.
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It'll cost ya.....PS2 game, game boy, new aluminum bat......somethin'. It always does me......... It is nice to have a helper, however, to help hold things steady on this very simple, but WORTHWHILE install. Install new gaskets if your car has say over 10,000 mi. on it.
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Originally Posted by JustBrilliantX
It'll cost ya.....PS2 game, game boy, new aluminum bat......somethin'. It always does me......... It is nice to have a helper, however, to help hold things steady on this very simple, but WORTHWHILE install. Install new gaskets if your car has say over 10,000 mi. on it.
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JBX and jameyb...
I have the first generation Stillen on my sedan and am quite happy with the extra punch my car now has.
The question that has been mulling around in my head is "what was changed from the first to the current generation?" was it the mid-pipe resonators? end section muffler??
Most people with the first gen cat-back will be curious if changing the end section or midi's will reduce the droning.
Any feedback or comments are appreciated.
I have the first generation Stillen on my sedan and am quite happy with the extra punch my car now has.
The question that has been mulling around in my head is "what was changed from the first to the current generation?" was it the mid-pipe resonators? end section muffler??
Most people with the first gen cat-back will be curious if changing the end section or midi's will reduce the droning.
Any feedback or comments are appreciated.
Originally Posted by jameyb
HeHe, that is exactly the moment I am waiting for. I ordered through everythingG35 to save a few bucks, now I almost wish I would have ordered it directly from Stillen because it would have been here faster.
Oh well, at least I can use the money I saved on some ramps for the install. Will Rhino Ramps get the car high enough off the ground for me to get under and install?
Oh well, at least I can use the money I saved on some ramps for the install. Will Rhino Ramps get the car high enough off the ground for me to get under and install?
"This stainless steel cat-back exhaust system will increase your sedan's performance by 21-23 hp and 21-23 lbs ft. of torque - at the rear wheels!"
This is Stillen's claim as to the performance gain from their exhaust. Has anyone experienced any gain close to Stillen's stated gains? Stillen also claims that their entire exhaust only weighs 13lbs, can anyone verify this? At 13lbs, that seems to be quite a savings versus the stock sedan exhaust. Thanks for the info.
This is Stillen's claim as to the performance gain from their exhaust. Has anyone experienced any gain close to Stillen's stated gains? Stillen also claims that their entire exhaust only weighs 13lbs, can anyone verify this? At 13lbs, that seems to be quite a savings versus the stock sedan exhaust. Thanks for the info.
Originally Posted by amg35
"This stainless steel cat-back exhaust system will increase your sedan's performance by 21-23 hp and 21-23 lbs ft. of torque - at the rear wheels!"
This is Stillen's claim as to the performance gain from their exhaust. Has anyone experienced any gain close to Stillen's stated gains? Stillen also claims that their entire exhaust only weighs 13lbs, can anyone verify this? At 13lbs, that seems to be quite a savings versus the stock sedan exhaust. Thanks for the info.
This is Stillen's claim as to the performance gain from their exhaust. Has anyone experienced any gain close to Stillen's stated gains? Stillen also claims that their entire exhaust only weighs 13lbs, can anyone verify this? At 13lbs, that seems to be quite a savings versus the stock sedan exhaust. Thanks for the info.
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Oh well, at least I can use the money I saved on some ramps for the install. Will Rhino Ramps get the car high enough off the ground for me to get under and install?[/QUOTE]
Just do it!
But before you start a couple of things-
I would highly
suggest you get a hydraulic floor jack that can take your car up at least 20"+ for this install (along with jack stands for final support which are essential). The install of a catback alone should not pose too much of a challenge (as opposed to a bit more of a challenge if you were doing headers). You'll need more than rhinos for a little more elbow room and not having sheet metal staring you down If you want a pretty good idea of what you'll be going thru (even though you have a sedan) take a look at this DIY:
http://www.g-owners.com/article_read.asp?id=39
And no matter how many miles- make sure you have a fresh set of gaskets as well- they just don't cost that much and you might as well while you're there.
Take it easy and enjoy the satisfaction...
Just do it!
But before you start a couple of things-
I would highly
suggest you get a hydraulic floor jack that can take your car up at least 20"+ for this install (along with jack stands for final support which are essential). The install of a catback alone should not pose too much of a challenge (as opposed to a bit more of a challenge if you were doing headers). You'll need more than rhinos for a little more elbow room and not having sheet metal staring you down If you want a pretty good idea of what you'll be going thru (even though you have a sedan) take a look at this DIY:http://www.g-owners.com/article_read.asp?id=39
And no matter how many miles- make sure you have a fresh set of gaskets as well- they just don't cost that much and you might as well while you're there.
Take it easy and enjoy the satisfaction...
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Originally Posted by amg35
"This stainless steel cat-back exhaust system will increase your sedan's performance by 21-23 hp and 21-23 lbs ft. of torque - at the rear wheels!"
This is Stillen's claim as to the performance gain from their exhaust. Has anyone experienced any gain close to Stillen's stated gains? Stillen also claims that their entire exhaust only weighs 13lbs, can anyone verify this? At 13lbs, that seems to be quite a savings versus the stock sedan exhaust. Thanks for the info.
This is Stillen's claim as to the performance gain from their exhaust. Has anyone experienced any gain close to Stillen's stated gains? Stillen also claims that their entire exhaust only weighs 13lbs, can anyone verify this? At 13lbs, that seems to be quite a savings versus the stock sedan exhaust. Thanks for the info.
Originally Posted by BadCommand
FWIW, while Stillens products are strong on build quality, they do have a long history of quoting what I would call marketing numbers.
Yeah, the marketing guys write the descriptions and the engineering guys are screaming the truth somewhere in there. It would be awesome if the published numbers were truly realized, but I have read no accounts of the claimed numbers on a dyno.
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All of the dynos I have seen (including ones for coupes and Zs) report about 8-10 hp gains. That is what I am hoping for.
As far as the install goes, I have some Rhino ramps for the front. The back is what I am worried about. I have a hydraulic jack that will be used to jack up the rear. Once the car is in the air, how do you place the jackstands underneath the sides of the car without damaging anything?
It appears that my jackstands will damage the plastic and the small lip under the sides of the car if I place them as shown in the "DIY" above. I was thinking about buying another set of ramps and placing them under the rear tires. I could always return the second set of ramps once I am finished.
As far as the install goes, I have some Rhino ramps for the front. The back is what I am worried about. I have a hydraulic jack that will be used to jack up the rear. Once the car is in the air, how do you place the jackstands underneath the sides of the car without damaging anything?
It appears that my jackstands will damage the plastic and the small lip under the sides of the car if I place them as shown in the "DIY" above. I was thinking about buying another set of ramps and placing them under the rear tires. I could always return the second set of ramps once I am finished.
Originally Posted by jameyb
All of the dynos I have seen (including ones for coupes and Zs) report about 8-10 hp gains. That is what I am hoping for.
As far as the install goes, I have some Rhino ramps for the front. The back is what I am worried about. I have a hydraulic jack that will be used to jack up the rear. Once the car is in the air, how do you place the jackstands underneath the sides of the car without damaging anything?
It appears that my jackstands will damage the plastic and the small lip under the sides of the car if I place them as shown in the "DIY" above. I was thinking about buying another set of ramps and placing them under the rear tires. I could always return the second set of ramps once I am finished.
As far as the install goes, I have some Rhino ramps for the front. The back is what I am worried about. I have a hydraulic jack that will be used to jack up the rear. Once the car is in the air, how do you place the jackstands underneath the sides of the car without damaging anything?
It appears that my jackstands will damage the plastic and the small lip under the sides of the car if I place them as shown in the "DIY" above. I was thinking about buying another set of ramps and placing them under the rear tires. I could always return the second set of ramps once I am finished.
