MD Price hike!
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no worries. I was one of those guys on the fence. I was just checking the site formore product info and just caught a glimpse of the price. It occured to me a little later so I went back to check to make sure I wasnt seeing things.
I will more than likely buy the lower piece, think it is called lower collector but could be wrong, from MD directly as I doubt this will show up in the marketplace or ebay. I can't wait to add the pieces.
Not certain if I am going t do the install or not. I have done similar work on my last car and I am sure you can appreciate this being from Texas... it is just too hot out to be fooling with. Are you going to have the dealer do the install or a perf shop.
I will more than likely buy the lower piece, think it is called lower collector but could be wrong, from MD directly as I doubt this will show up in the marketplace or ebay. I can't wait to add the pieces.
Not certain if I am going t do the install or not. I have done similar work on my last car and I am sure you can appreciate this being from Texas... it is just too hot out to be fooling with. Are you going to have the dealer do the install or a perf shop.
Originally Posted by 2FastG354U
No, I noticed it as well. I don't think their products are that good.
I've seen nothing but stellar quality and unmatched customer service, which is the opposite of some of the competitive offerings.
Bang-for-the-buck can't be beat.
Which of their products do you own?
We've had a slight cool front yesterday and the rain today has things cooled off, but at the start of the week we had a couple of 100 degree days. Definately too hot to tinker!
The local Nissan dealership got burned on a previous side-project and no longer wants to do any work on other vehicles (nearest Infiniti dealer is 4 hours away). They'll change my fluids, but as I found out, with Motorcraft oil, etc., since it's mainly a Ford dealership.
I've got a local speed shop that I like, but I also have a mechanic (with his own shop) who became a friend of the family. Did great work on my '55 Chevy and he's done a lot for my brother in the VW circles. The guy is really good and, most importantly, I know I can trust the work. No big price breaks or anything, but I do know that he goes the extra step to do something right without being asked. He's spent his life tweaking V8's and VW's, but his shop caters to european and asian cars, as "Those owners aren't cheapskates when they it comes to proper repairs, so things tend to run more smoothly." lol
The local Nissan dealership got burned on a previous side-project and no longer wants to do any work on other vehicles (nearest Infiniti dealer is 4 hours away). They'll change my fluids, but as I found out, with Motorcraft oil, etc., since it's mainly a Ford dealership.

I've got a local speed shop that I like, but I also have a mechanic (with his own shop) who became a friend of the family. Did great work on my '55 Chevy and he's done a lot for my brother in the VW circles. The guy is really good and, most importantly, I know I can trust the work. No big price breaks or anything, but I do know that he goes the extra step to do something right without being asked. He's spent his life tweaking V8's and VW's, but his shop caters to european and asian cars, as "Those owners aren't cheapskates when they it comes to proper repairs, so things tend to run more smoothly." lol
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ChicagoX, I see you have the coupe mid pipe... Are you pretty happy with it and did it change the ambient cabin sound much?
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Originally Posted by GT-Ron
We've had a slight cool front yesterday and the rain today has things cooled off, but at the start of the week we had a couple of 100 degree days. Definately too hot to tinker!
The local Nissan dealership got burned on a previous side-project and no longer wants to do any work on other vehicles (nearest Infiniti dealer is 4 hours away). They'll change my fluids, but as I found out, with Motorcraft oil, etc., since it's mainly a Ford dealership.
I've got a local speed shop that I like, but I also have a mechanic (with his own shop) who became a friend of the family. Did great work on my '55 Chevy and he's done a lot for my brother in the VW circles. The guy is really good and, most importantly, I know I can trust the work. No big price breaks or anything, but I do know that he goes the extra step to do something right without being asked. He's spent his life tweaking V8's and VW's, but his shop caters to european and asian cars, as "Those owners aren't cheapskates when they it comes to proper repairs, so things tend to run more smoothly." lol
The local Nissan dealership got burned on a previous side-project and no longer wants to do any work on other vehicles (nearest Infiniti dealer is 4 hours away). They'll change my fluids, but as I found out, with Motorcraft oil, etc., since it's mainly a Ford dealership.

I've got a local speed shop that I like, but I also have a mechanic (with his own shop) who became a friend of the family. Did great work on my '55 Chevy and he's done a lot for my brother in the VW circles. The guy is really good and, most importantly, I know I can trust the work. No big price breaks or anything, but I do know that he goes the extra step to do something right without being asked. He's spent his life tweaking V8's and VW's, but his shop caters to european and asian cars, as "Those owners aren't cheapskates when they it comes to proper repairs, so things tend to run more smoothly." lol
Yeah texas defeintely suffers from heat soak. We are thinking about moving to Houston or Austin at the end of the year. Can't wait to get out there. My wife has lived in Florida all her life and has only visited NY, NY and Charleston, SC.
Yeah I have a good local shop that I trust. They do the mainenance on my wifes Altima and my mother in laws 626. I knew the sons owner before going there and they have never let me down. I get an occasional price break but I do not ask for it. I pay what I pay becasue it is part of owning and operating a car. Not certai if I would want them doing this work though. I am in an apartment right now and have no garage so if the dealer wont do it then I will have to do it shade tree style.
I'd rather have it one right the first time and if it costs a little more then again that is the cost of getting it done right. So I can relate to the remarks about the skunk products made in previous post.
Imported cars are doomed from the start to pay more money for parts. Don't know why, but all the crap for this car costs a good $100-300 more then stuff my brothers are buying for their Mustangs(Cobra and Mach 1). The strup headers are well priced.
However what companies are charging for catted test pipes is rediculous. It is 2 feet of SS pipe and a cat.
However what companies are charging for catted test pipes is rediculous. It is 2 feet of SS pipe and a cat.
Foo_G,
I'm sorry. My initial comments were not aimed at your price increase discovery. My comments were directed to the 2nd poster (2Fast). He made a blanket statement without any justification(s).
Our cars are costly to mod. At the same time, I do not begrudge anyone a well deserved profit. MotorDyne's products are well respected and have been proven to yield good results by many independent testers. To blankly say, "I don't think their products are that good." without any further comment and justification is simply ludicrous. I am actually quite curious as to what real experience the said poster has had with MotorDyne products.
I'm sorry. My initial comments were not aimed at your price increase discovery. My comments were directed to the 2nd poster (2Fast). He made a blanket statement without any justification(s).
Our cars are costly to mod. At the same time, I do not begrudge anyone a well deserved profit. MotorDyne's products are well respected and have been proven to yield good results by many independent testers. To blankly say, "I don't think their products are that good." without any further comment and justification is simply ludicrous. I am actually quite curious as to what real experience the said poster has had with MotorDyne products.
Originally Posted by Foo_G
ChicagoX, I see you have the coupe mid pipe... Are you pretty happy with it and did it change the ambient cabin sound much?
If you live in a hot climate, I would definitely recommend one of MD's products to cool the upper manifold. It makes for a huge difference of manifold temp.
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yeah I think he is one of the mod hating drive by guys. No worries jus tryin to be on point for the crew. Please pardon me if I might have retorted in a cross manner.
Originally Posted by andy2434
Foo_G,
I'm sorry. My initial comments were not aimed at your price increase discovery. My comments were directed to the 2nd poster (2Fast). He made a blanket statement without any justification(s).
Our cars are costly to mod. At the same time, I do not begrudge anyone a well deserved profit. MotorDyne's products are well respected and have been proven to yield good results by many independent testers. To blankly say, "I don't think their products are that good." without any further comment and justification is simply ludicrous. I am actually quite curious as to what real experience the said poster has had with MotorDyne products.
I'm sorry. My initial comments were not aimed at your price increase discovery. My comments were directed to the 2nd poster (2Fast). He made a blanket statement without any justification(s).
Our cars are costly to mod. At the same time, I do not begrudge anyone a well deserved profit. MotorDyne's products are well respected and have been proven to yield good results by many independent testers. To blankly say, "I don't think their products are that good." without any further comment and justification is simply ludicrous. I am actually quite curious as to what real experience the said poster has had with MotorDyne products.

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thanks for the feedback. I live in Fl and thinking anout moving to texas so I will be out of the frying pan and into the fire whic is why I did order the iso thermal spacer.
It shipped today and I sould have it by Tuesday. I have a PC based OBD scantool that also comes with a road dyno application so I am going to road dyno the car tomorrow and again after the iso thermal install.
You have any opinion on the mrev + lover plenum for 05 6mt sedans? Any feedback would be appreciated.
It shipped today and I sould have it by Tuesday. I have a PC based OBD scantool that also comes with a road dyno application so I am going to road dyno the car tomorrow and again after the iso thermal install.
You have any opinion on the mrev + lover plenum for 05 6mt sedans? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Originally Posted by ChicagoX
It's a no-brainer for pre-05 sedans, IMO. Slight drone around 1800-2000rpm under certain load profiles (mainly higher gear/medium load)
If you live in a hot climate, I would definitely recommend one of MD's products to cool the upper manifold. It makes for a huge difference of manifold temp.
If you live in a hot climate, I would definitely recommend one of MD's products to cool the upper manifold. It makes for a huge difference of manifold temp.
Last edited by Foo_G; Apr 22, 2006 at 10:42 PM.
Originally Posted by Foo_G
You have any opinion on the mrev + lover plenum for 05 6mt sedans? Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Thanks. I think I read a write you did. I ahve been searching and reading so much it is hard to keep up with whats what..
I have the spacer and considering the lower plenum/collector and can't really sem to get a sense of what or how it benefits the spacer. I am going to keep reading other threads but if you get the chance to respond to this I would appreciate it.
Thanks again.
I have the spacer and considering the lower plenum/collector and can't really sem to get a sense of what or how it benefits the spacer. I am going to keep reading other threads but if you get the chance to respond to this I would appreciate it.
Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by 2FastG354U
No, I noticed it as well. I don't think their products are that good.
Originally Posted by ChicagoX
Which of their products do you own?
I've seen nothing but stellar quality and unmatched customer service, which is the opposite of some of the competitive offerings.
Bang-for-the-buck can't be beat.
Which of their products do you own?
I've seen nothing but stellar quality and unmatched customer service, which is the opposite of some of the competitive offerings.
Bang-for-the-buck can't be beat.
Which of their products do you own?
MD products are well documented.
Any response to ChicagoX ????
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Hi Guys,
Yes, there was a price increase on all the spacers because of a recent product improvement.
The spacers themselves are now Iso Thermal too.
The previous design used a modified stock Nissan metal gasket to do the sealing, but the new generation of plenum spacers now use Iso Thermal gaskets applied directly to the spacer.
The new gaskets cost more and must be carefully applied by hand. It takes time to put them on. But overall, it make a much better quality product.
The new gasket now conforms exactly to the spacer shape. It is thicker, softer and more compliant than the thin metal gaskets Nissan used. So they have a better sealing capasity.
The new Iso Thermal gaskets are also much more resistant to heat transfer because they have a much lower thermal conductivity.
They also make installation much easier than before because you don't need to perfetly align the metal gasket on top of the spacer when you are trying to put the bolts through it. For those of you who installed them before know what I am saying. Upper plenum, gasket, spacer, lower gasket, lower plenum. It would get tricky keeping it all aligned sometimes.
Sometimes, if the metal gasket wasn't perfectly aligned, the metal gasket would get kinked, bent, or a peice of it would get folded over. And this could cause leaks.
With the new gaskets applied directly to the spacer it makes installation much easier. Just open the plenum like a clam shell, slide in the spacer and bolt it all back down.
Its much easier now and has many functional improvements for the end user.
It wasn't just a price increase... It was (is) a real product improvement.
Tony
Yes, there was a price increase on all the spacers because of a recent product improvement.
The spacers themselves are now Iso Thermal too.
The previous design used a modified stock Nissan metal gasket to do the sealing, but the new generation of plenum spacers now use Iso Thermal gaskets applied directly to the spacer.
The new gaskets cost more and must be carefully applied by hand. It takes time to put them on. But overall, it make a much better quality product.
The new gasket now conforms exactly to the spacer shape. It is thicker, softer and more compliant than the thin metal gaskets Nissan used. So they have a better sealing capasity.
The new Iso Thermal gaskets are also much more resistant to heat transfer because they have a much lower thermal conductivity.
They also make installation much easier than before because you don't need to perfetly align the metal gasket on top of the spacer when you are trying to put the bolts through it. For those of you who installed them before know what I am saying. Upper plenum, gasket, spacer, lower gasket, lower plenum. It would get tricky keeping it all aligned sometimes.
Sometimes, if the metal gasket wasn't perfectly aligned, the metal gasket would get kinked, bent, or a peice of it would get folded over. And this could cause leaks.
With the new gaskets applied directly to the spacer it makes installation much easier. Just open the plenum like a clam shell, slide in the spacer and bolt it all back down.
Its much easier now and has many functional improvements for the end user.
It wasn't just a price increase... It was (is) a real product improvement.
Tony



