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03-08-2005, 03:02 PM
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03-08-2005, 04:04 PM
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And I did just that. I skipped pretty much the whole second whole...which may make my upcomming statement nonvalid, but Id on't care...cuzz I was like second to post in this thread and have tried to sift out the BS from non..with SOME luck, lol.
I agree with Juan. I think he has the Kenstyle kit, as do I. I ordered just the back bumper to put on my coupe about a month ago and waited patiently for the rest of the peices and rims to come in and then wait for the body shop to paint etc. I payed $1500 for this rear bumper alone because I wanted to be different from all the other Nismo, Gialla, whatever other kit is out there that you see being posted all the time [not targeting those people though, they look great]. I thought OK, so far not many of these Kenstyle kits have been imported yet, I'll buy one up [which was a headache in its own] and won't have to worry about being copied as easily...since us who are into shows, originallity is a BIG deal. Now I come to see a kit, a replica kit, for less than half the price...this pisses me off. Like I said, is nothing kept safe from APC and Extreme Dimension and all the other wannabe companies? I don't care about the price, I don't care about the [replica] fitment, I don't care if the paint holds to my $1500 rear bumper better then your $500 bumper...I care about being original.
I am in school, and have been in school, working with fiberglass, ABS, and all other sorts of molds etc., so that I can hopefully start up a business of my own and make my own body kits, spoilers, etc., that are wind tunnel tested - or atleast work for a REPUTABLE company that makes its molds like this. Why, when I have spent all my time, biult up student loans, studied, worked, and bled over this just to have some no name company copy my design for a car and steal not just my money, but also money for my wife, kids, and myself? I know the world isn't fair, by a looong shot; but something should be done to keep stuff like this from happening. Copy the "look" if you will all that you want. Change SOMETHING on the kit to make it DIFFERENT from the real deal! Maybe make a Kenstyle with center exhaust, I don't know...but don't steal money that I need to live on!
I saw someone else say that "not everyone is as fortunate/blessed [call it what you may] as you, so dont make the people who aren't as blessed as you feel bad." Well kid, your driving a G35. Whether you are a kid or 50 year old man...you still drive a 40K car. No one here is, or should be "poor" [however you choose to define that] - because you aren't. If you are struggling with the payments on the car yet are still trying to buy aftermarket parts for it....maybe you should look into an 03, or trade it in for something alittle less expensive where you will have more money to fix things on it the RIGHT way and not the ricer way....that's my 2¢ on that statement.
*Steps off his soapbox*
I agree with Juan. I think he has the Kenstyle kit, as do I. I ordered just the back bumper to put on my coupe about a month ago and waited patiently for the rest of the peices and rims to come in and then wait for the body shop to paint etc. I payed $1500 for this rear bumper alone because I wanted to be different from all the other Nismo, Gialla, whatever other kit is out there that you see being posted all the time [not targeting those people though, they look great]. I thought OK, so far not many of these Kenstyle kits have been imported yet, I'll buy one up [which was a headache in its own] and won't have to worry about being copied as easily...since us who are into shows, originallity is a BIG deal. Now I come to see a kit, a replica kit, for less than half the price...this pisses me off. Like I said, is nothing kept safe from APC and Extreme Dimension and all the other wannabe companies? I don't care about the price, I don't care about the [replica] fitment, I don't care if the paint holds to my $1500 rear bumper better then your $500 bumper...I care about being original.
I am in school, and have been in school, working with fiberglass, ABS, and all other sorts of molds etc., so that I can hopefully start up a business of my own and make my own body kits, spoilers, etc., that are wind tunnel tested - or atleast work for a REPUTABLE company that makes its molds like this. Why, when I have spent all my time, biult up student loans, studied, worked, and bled over this just to have some no name company copy my design for a car and steal not just my money, but also money for my wife, kids, and myself? I know the world isn't fair, by a looong shot; but something should be done to keep stuff like this from happening. Copy the "look" if you will all that you want. Change SOMETHING on the kit to make it DIFFERENT from the real deal! Maybe make a Kenstyle with center exhaust, I don't know...but don't steal money that I need to live on!
I saw someone else say that "not everyone is as fortunate/blessed [call it what you may] as you, so dont make the people who aren't as blessed as you feel bad." Well kid, your driving a G35. Whether you are a kid or 50 year old man...you still drive a 40K car. No one here is, or should be "poor" [however you choose to define that] - because you aren't. If you are struggling with the payments on the car yet are still trying to buy aftermarket parts for it....maybe you should look into an 03, or trade it in for something alittle less expensive where you will have more money to fix things on it the RIGHT way and not the ricer way....that's my 2¢ on that statement.
*Steps off his soapbox*
#33
03-08-2005, 04:08 PM
At the end of the day this post was merely a courtesy to those who couldnt or wouldnt spend the money on a full AUTHENTIC kit. Many of us would love to have the original but our pocketbooks do not allow for it. So having said that, a replica is a good 2nd option. And since 99% of the population driving by wouldnt have a bloody clue if its authentic or a replica who gives a crap at the end of the day. So Y dont we leave this as what the original intent was to inform those they have choices should they want to mod their G to thier hearts content.
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03-08-2005, 04:24 PM
#36
03-08-2005, 05:45 PM
Sorry, but you are wrong 
They don't care about other people - they care that something they paid $3k for can now be had at a cheaper price, so the "originality" they thought they could simply pay for is no longer there... sorry to tell you guys, but you can't put a price on being creative and original...
They don't care about other people - they care that something they paid $3k for can now be had at a cheaper price, so the "originality" they thought they could simply pay for is no longer there... sorry to tell you guys, but you can't put a price on being creative and original...
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03-08-2005, 06:17 PM
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So you're saying you can be cheap and be original? Isn't that was rice does? No disrespect, bzabodyn, because you have watched my threads closely about my car and been supportive - I am just wondering since when can money not buy originality? A cheap copy is not an original, it is just that, a copy. If you want to be original, you must spend money.
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03-08-2005, 06:22 PM
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Replicas / original who cares? They all look the same if you get a good bodyshop to put it on.
I partially blame Kenstyle and their pricing policies. By deciding to sell at $3k, you're practically inviting everyone to copy it. If you can buy the same kit for $1500, it makes it a much easier decision to buy the knock-off. If they would have priced it a little lower, they don't leave themselves open to other companies being able to knock so much off the price.
I partially blame Kenstyle and their pricing policies. By deciding to sell at $3k, you're practically inviting everyone to copy it. If you can buy the same kit for $1500, it makes it a much easier decision to buy the knock-off. If they would have priced it a little lower, they don't leave themselves open to other companies being able to knock so much off the price.
#39
03-08-2005, 06:27 PM
Do you guys really think it costs them even half of the 3 G's to make the kits??? This is the problem...Companies like Kenstyle, Ings and Nismo charge so much for their name that they make people like me want to buy the replicas...I just got a replica Nismo for less than half of the real Nismo...You just can't beat that! And it fits pretty well!
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03-08-2005, 07:47 PM
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Lol, thats the point. Now your catching on - they all look the same! I'll stick with name brands, not Hi-Top body kits....Sad part is...whoever gets this Kenstyle replica will probably call it a Kenstyle kit...NOT a replica...then I'll laugh when he sells it as if its real...now thats the ticket!!
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03-09-2005, 12:27 AM
I have sent this guy a few messages also asking him if this is the real deal, and I have no yet receive any kind of reply. Conclusion: REPLICA, no way this is real deal, you pay for what you get. Despite people dont want to pay top dollars for fiberglass, but the truth is, REAL STUFF FITS, no bs. And of couse, urethane material is the best, because thats what OEM uses, but its expensive since it cost more to make, just my opinions.
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03-09-2005, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HomieG35
I am in school, and have been in school, working with fiberglass, ABS, and all other sorts of molds etc., so that I can hopefully start up a business of my own and make my own body kits, spoilers, etc., that are wind tunnel tested - or atleast work for a REPUTABLE company that makes its molds like this. Why, when I have spent all my time, biult up student loans, studied, worked, and bled over this just to have some no name company copy my design for a car and steal not just my money, but also money for my wife, kids, and myself?
#43
03-09-2005, 08:45 AM
[soapbox]i'm still shocked at how some of you are comparing the quality of kenstyle and these other manufacturers to replicas. i'm no expert on fiberglass or urethane, however, i'd imagine that there is a reason why these kits made in japan are considerably more expensive than their replica counterparts being made over on this side of the ocean. i'd also think that's the reason why their kits typically fit better on the first try versus replicas. add to that the cost of getting the kits packaged properly and then putting them on a plane or a boat to get it over to this side of the ocean intact and i think you have the reason why these kits do not cost the same as the $800-1000 kit being sold on ebay.
before anyone decides to flame me, this is based on my observations from seeing plenty of people with bad kits ,talking with body shops that do these kinds of installs and going to shows and talking with owners who ultimately spend the same amount of money to get the kits to fit. but like i said in an earlier post it's your money, so do what you feel with it. and since this thread has gone totally awry, i think i'm going to stop posting.[/soapbox]
before anyone decides to flame me, this is based on my observations from seeing plenty of people with bad kits ,talking with body shops that do these kinds of installs and going to shows and talking with owners who ultimately spend the same amount of money to get the kits to fit. but like i said in an earlier post it's your money, so do what you feel with it. and since this thread has gone totally awry, i think i'm going to stop posting.[/soapbox]
#44
03-09-2005, 09:10 AM
I can tell you first hand the luxury level of a car has alot to do w/ the prices of aftermarket parts, body kits included. Another factor is how many other parts are available for the vehicle, the G has only been around since 03 (maybe late 02) for the few who picked it up late that year. Therefore the parts market is NOT YET saturated for the G. Think about it, we dont even have a manufacturer who makes a Strut Bar!! Not to mention half if not 75% of all the parts we have are thanks to our Z brothers. Now look at a 98 civic and aftermarket parts. I dont think there exists a body kit for that car in the 2k+ price range. Same goes for turbo's etc etc but our cars are fairly new therefore the cost of aftermarket parts is still higher than what it will be in 5 years. The point being made is the end product of kenstyle and its replica is 'fiberglass'. All other things constant, the end material is the same which is why your basically mostly paying for a brand name and perhaps 'fitment'. It all comes down to whats more important to you and cost/benefit. Again IMO, fiberglass cracks way too easy therefore even a 1500 body kit in fiberglass aint worth it to me, even if its an Armani/Versace/Prada body kit for the G...its still fiberglass.
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03-09-2005, 02:26 PM
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come on guys, let's save our time discussing something else other than replica kits, we all know replica is replica no matter what you do to it.
In this forum, there are several members already spent $$$ on real Kenstyle kits and I respect their guts
"Fake diamonds are not true diamonds. You can lure other people, but you cannot lie to yourself on a daily basis."
In this forum, there are several members already spent $$$ on real Kenstyle kits and I respect their guts
"Fake diamonds are not true diamonds. You can lure other people, but you cannot lie to yourself on a daily basis."