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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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19x8.5 +13, 19x9.5 +17

ok offset gurus, i got one for u...

with these sizes and offsets (for sf-winning), and standard tire sizes (245/35 and 275/35),

WILL THEY RUB???
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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Wow! Very aggressive offsets...you must not have a BBK or plan to get one.

With the rubbing thing, I don't know...sorry.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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More than likely not.

Some guys are running GT-AV's with +17 on a 9.5 rim front. I run a 10.5 with a +12 and that rubs a little...a +22 10.5 will rub only on a low drop. +22 with 10.0 works fine......so you should be okay. As aggressive as those are, with a 8.5 and a 9.5 width...you still are relatively on the safe side.

It depends on how low you are planning to go as well. Also what tire brands you choose. Talk to the guys that are vendors on this forum. They will more than likely assist you as well and probably can give you better options.

Personally though...get the rims the way that you want them...then build the car around them. If you have to roll the fenders a little....then so be it. Part of the cost for the look that you want...but you will be happy with it.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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i have brembos, but i just want nice lip without rubbing issues on 9.5 and 10.5 with low offsets...

am i gonna have any camber issues with these offsets?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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The offset has no bearing on brake clearance. Im really tired of seeing this already. The only thing(s) to worry about for brake clearance are spoke/face design (well and size, but who's gonna put 15 or 16in wheels on a G?), NOT offset.

Oh and personally I'd bump the width up an inch front and rear (to 9.5, 10.5), but that's just me.
 

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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by boro240
The offset has no bearing on brake clearance. Im really tired of seeing this already. The only thing(s) to worry about for brake clearance are spoke/face design (well and size, but who's gonna put 15 or 16in wheels on a G?), NOT offset.

Oh and personally I'd bump the width up an inch front and rear (to 9.5, 10.5), but that's just me.
then why did my 19x8 with a +25 offset not clear my brembos until I added a 5mm spacer?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IS300TOG35
then why did my 19x8 with a +25 offset not clear my brembos until I added a 5mm spacer?
It still wasn't the offset. Spacer's dont count because they push the entire wheel out further, including the spokes. THAT is what helped you clear the brakes, not the change it effective offset.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 02:22 AM
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Boro240 Are u sure about Offsets, because i thought the same as u until 2 different companies I called always mentioned the offsetS not clearing my brembos. I have been paying attention to most peoples offsets and have noticed that people with brembos tend to go with 15-25 offset in front and 20-35 offset in rear. People without the brembos do 35+. You might be correct but where r u getting ur facts from. SOMEONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS UP, WHAT OFFSETS SHOULD A WHEEL BE TO CLEAR BREMBOS OR DOES IT NOT MATTER?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 02:25 AM
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PM sen_jen ... he knows his **** .. end of story
 
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by G35ANSTA
Boro240 Are u sure about Offsets, because i thought the same as u until 2 different companies I called always mentioned the offsetS not clearing my brembos. I have been paying attention to most peoples offsets and have noticed that people with brembos tend to go with 15-25 offset in front and 20-35 offset in rear. People without the brembos do 35+. You might be correct but where r u getting ur facts from. SOMEONE PLEASE CLEAR THIS UP, WHAT OFFSETS SHOULD A WHEEL BE TO CLEAR BREMBOS OR DOES IT NOT MATTER?
boro240 is correct for certain wheels. Good manufacturers make multiple faces for brake clearance, usually high, mid, low, and super low, with various names for these. Then they bolt a front and rear barrel section to them to get certain widths and offsets. Doing so means that the only thing that matters for brake clearance is the face type chosen, and not the offset. A high face center bolted to a 30mm front barrel and corresponding rear could give an offset of +20, while a 50mm front barrel bolted to a corresponding rear would give an offset of +0, but still have the same brake clearance.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:04 AM
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I'm Sorry but can u explain that for everyone in lamest terms. So in other words if u 2 are right than there is no number to properly tell a buyer if a wheel will clear his or her brakes, correct? Not the offset or width of a wheel, maybe the size of the rim. Im very sure that a 16 inch rim would have trouble clearing any of our rotors let alone breaks. So I have to go by Face design alone to tell if rims will clear my brakes.
 

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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:29 AM
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Like I said, it depends on the wheel design. Some wheels change offset by changing the level of concavity of the face and how much material is at the center of the hub that bolts to the rotor, so going off of offset alone will not be sufficient in telling you if a wheel is going to clear a BBK. For example, an SSR wheel with a mid pad center in 19x10.5 can be ordered in offsets of +35, +22, +10, -3, and -16, with lip sizes ranging from 72mm to 123mm, all with the same center, so the same brake clearance. This usually applies to multipiece wheels, basically they swap larger outer barrel sections with smaller inner barrels sections so the total width of the wheel is the same, but with vastly different offsets. This is why offsets alone can't tell you if a wheel will clear
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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wow... thread back from the dead...

i think basically what redlude is trying to say is that disk setting/pad (low, mid, high) is what determines brake clearance, while offset pushes the wheel in or out of the wheel well.

usually, wheels with high disk setting/pad will clear brembos...
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hxs
wow... thread back from the dead...

i think basically what redlude is trying to say is that disk setting/pad (low, mid, high) is what determines brake clearance, while offset pushes the wheel in or out of the wheel well.

usually, wheels with high disk setting/pad will clear brembos...
So did you end up running those offsets? I'm currently running 8.5+20, and want to bump it down to 8.5 +0 using 20mm spacers with a 245/35/19, but I don't know of anyone that went that aggressive, it extends an extra 4mm past a 9.5+17, which is about as aggressive as I see on here
 
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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no... i got 9.5 +28 and 10.5 +24 vs-xx.

as for 8.5 +0, i don't think it's a good idea. your wheels are really gonna look like this / \ ... there's not enough coverage on the inside if you know what i mean. and your suspension is gonna hate it.

EDIT: i wouldn't go past +15 on any width of wheel... but that's just me
 
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