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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Picture request on staggered rims for X sedan

Hey guys,

I have tried to search some pics of the 07-08 AWD Sedan with the staggered rims, but didnt find many.
If any one has staggered set of rims on their AWD sedan please post a pic of them.

I have an X and really like the look of the rims with different width, but b4 I buy them I wnna really make sure I wont have any problems with SLIP light , etc.

Thanks a lot for any help. Appreciate it
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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A staggered set up on a X will mess up the system. That is why you are not finding any pictures.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 12:56 PM
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+1 it's not recommended.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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thnx guys. but I ve heard that unless the diameter of the wheels is the same , no matter if you have different width...jst saying what I have read
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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You know what I'd do? I'd run 4 of the same sized wheels and tires. But if you like the staggered look, run a small spacer on the rear. You get the look, still run the right diameters and you can still rotate.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You know what I'd do? I'd run 4 of the same sized wheels and tires. But if you like the staggered look, run a small spacer on the rear. You get the look, still run the right diameters and you can still rotate.
thats actually a very good idea.
obviously a larger lip on the rear rim on the staggered set looks awesome , but i see its betta not to try the luck on this one
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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I don't see why one couldn't run a true staggered IF you kept the tire diameters right for all 4 but this might be a more viable option if you consider the rotation benefits.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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There are people running staggered setups on here. As stated, as long as the rolling diameter is really close, it should not be an issue. Our cars are smart, but they can't tell how wide your wheels are, only the diameter of the tires.....
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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I wonder if the differences in grip would affect how the AWD system works? (ie.. from having wider rears)
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:36 PM
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I just recently ordered wheels from Ryan at Forged Performance (19x9.5 and 19x10.5) He told me being that the G's do not have a true AWD system like Subaru's, it is not necessary to run the same size all around. I'll be running 245/40F and 275 or 285/35R,which will keep a very close rolling diameter. Hopefully in the beginning of May i'll have some pictures.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by d_cecc629
I just recently ordered wheels from Ryan at Forged Performance (19x9.5 and 19x10.5) He told me being that the G's do not have a true AWD system like Subaru's, it is not necessary to run the same size all around. I'll be running 245/40F and 275 or 285/35R,which will keep a very close rolling diameter. Hopefully in the beginning of May i'll have some pictures.
Sounds nice, and hopefully your AWD system will still be functional the following May.
It's a good thing he didn't tell you that you could fly.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Well subaru is full time AWD with equal power going to all wheels normally. G35s have a rear biased AWD system. I forget what the default bias is but it's like 80% rear to 20% front or something. Similar to how BMWs are set up. It's what I would prefer actually
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GEE35X
Sounds nice, and hopefully your AWD system will still be functional the following May.
It's a good thing he didn't tell you that you could fly.

Hahaha, that's a bit harsh no? But I agree with you completely. First, take a salesperson's advice with some discretion. His job is to sell and don't always have your best interest at heart. They may have only had non-staggered sets in their inventory and may try to push on you what they currently have in stock instead of what may be ideal for your vehicle.

In the end, you have a lot of people on this forum warning against doing the non-staggered. The staggered setup MAY work, but it will MOST LIKELY affect your AWD system in a negative way, which is why very few of the X's here are running it, including some reputable X-drivers on here like GEE35X.

We paid big bucks to get that "X" after the "5", it would probably not be prudent to take a chance ruining that function.

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BTW: Where are you guys buying your non-staggered wheels from?
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:16 PM
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I apoligize for being a bit harsh and sarcastic

My main concern is, if you are running different size tires front and back.

I have asked at two different Infiniti Dealers about it also. They said not to do it If something went wrong with your attesa awd system, they would not cover it under warranty. I have also read different articles about it. Even the smallest difference in diameters can confuse the Attesa system on it's ability to provide awd capabilities.
I would love to run staggered, but must be content to run the same size all around. I have run with 255/18s all around and now am running 245/18s all around.
The X is a great choice, and I love the awd system on it.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I wonder if the differences in grip would affect how the AWD system works? (ie.. from having wider rears)
I am sure it would have some minimal impact. According the Infiniti, the system runs pretty much in RWD mode unless some slip is detected. At that point it diverts between 0-50% of the power to the front wheels (the amount depends on the amount of slip detected). In this regard, it is not much different than putting wider tires on a RWD version. It will run without issue until some slip is detected. On a RWD model, it cuts power to the rear wheels or adds some braking. On an AWD model, it sends some of the power to the front wheels. It detects slip the same way on either model (wheel speed sensors on each wheel); the difference is in how much slip is detected and how it responds. The only way I see that it could respond in a negative way is if the rolling diameter is off, and it thinks there is more/less slip detected than there is actually present.

Running a 245/40/19 and a 275/35/19 results in a 0.5% difference in rolling diameter. This is a 0.2 inch difference in diameter. If you had bald tires on one end, and new tires on the other, you would easily have this much of a delta. The AWD systems allows for some amount of slip before it engages, and I would guess that number is above 1-2%. It has to allow for a small variance due to other conditions. I just don't see any way that 0.5% is going to throw the system off.

Let me add.... I am not saying running a staggered setup will have no impact, there will be some minimal change, but in no way do I think it will ruin the system. It's just not that complex. If someone has any evidence to the contrary, I would like to see it. I think a lot of people are speculating without any facts (myself included)
 

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