Congrats to Barry. Until he's definitively proven guilty, he will be the new home run king. There's talks of A-rod using the roids, so we'll see how this all boils down.

 

i say it takes more skill than strength to hit a homerun. but maybe if he wasnt taking them his career would have been over a few years back and he would have fell short of the record. hes still a great player though.

 

I agree to this a certain extent. I believe the skill is in the hand eye coordination to actually hit the ball and the steroids come in to play on how far he can hit the ball. So he definately has skill there is no question and he definately can hit the ball but the steroids may have played a big part on how many he hit.

Andy I have thought about this alot and was wondering if the reason why this broken record doesnt mean alot to you is because if you think about all of the factors. Think about it babe ruth and henry aaron played as many games a season as bonds has. I think they had like half as many games a season back then as they do now or something like that. Also again you have steroids, nutrition, better trainers and equipment. I beleive that records that stand for so long have alot less meaning when broken with todays extraordinary traits to our games. What do you think? Do you think this may play a part in why this record means little to you? I know I am not very impressed.

 

Hmmm. A whole generation took steroids. The pictchers were on steroids. The whole 90's is tainted and I don't see anyone else even remotely close to 756 from his generation. If you don't like Bonds then fine, I think he is an A-hole as a person also. But don't diminish his skills as a baseball player. Steroids don't help with hand-eye coordination, you still have to connect with the ball PERFECTLY. Go take Jon Cena from the W.E. and see if you can get him to hit home runs. Just because your big doesn't make you a better hitter. You wanna call him a cheater then fine, but he has the record and if it was such an enhancer, then we would have more people chasing the record. Plus the guys gets like 2 pitches to hit a night.
He is a rediculously good baseball hitter, nothing more nothing less, steroids or no steroids.

 

and he even got KUDOS from "President George Bush" today on the morning news....

Even the pres said despite allegations he is still innocent until proven guily and at this time his achievement should be celebrate...the man can hit a baseball..

Don't hate him...I don't even know him...but I respect him as an athlete...

Not to stir things up but if Bonds was a non-black american ball-player, do you think there would be all this attention?

Look at all the reporters who bash him...non of them are black...they're all white....

just my opinion..and $0.02 worth today....

I've been a fan of his since day 1 as a Pirate and followed his carreer.....

BoBs - Always a Bonds/Giants fan no matter how bad the team is playing -

 

First of all, props to everyone for the manner in which you folks are discussing this topic.

Over the years, I have factored in the items that you have referenced. It is the natural progression of all things. Considering all of the improved new training, nutrition, equipment, etc. . . .Personally, I do not take anything away from modern day athletes. It takes an incredible amount of talent and dedication to accomplish what these folks have done, in any sport.

New records and achievements keep all sports alive and exciting for their fans. Sure, playing conditions and situations do change. The playing field will never be level when we compared athletes from different generations. Each athlete will be measured and remembered by their own efforts, sportsmanship and contributions to their perspective sports.

I think it is a shame though when I look back at the various sports, where athletes have been stripped of their awards, titles, etc. for using banned substances. These said individuals, whom possessed great skills and talent, not only cheated themselves . . . They cheated/deceived the very fans that had supported and admired their accomplishments by winning at any cost . . . And as such, more and more athletes are taking the same course.

What puzzles me is that . . . Athletes with so much God given talent . . . Find themselves needing more of an unfair advantage/edge.

With regard to Mr. Bonds . . . I do not think that we will ever know for sure whether the use of Steroids and/or the use of Human Growth Hormone accusations will come to the surface. I will offer this . . . It is definitely a shame that such a milestone in Baseball is clouded by such controversy.

Some 2 weeks ago, I was listening to a KGO radio program. They were discussing the effects of Human Growth Hormones. It was stated that in a number of studies, Human Growth Hormones definitely improve one's eye sight. Test subjects, whom required glasses to correct their vision, no longer required glasses after taking the said HGH. As hand eye coordination is critical in many sports, I offer that tidbit for whatever it is worth.

Lastly, I feel that the new HR record is great for the sport of Baseball and undeniably so. It affords all of the fans the excitement and anticipation for the next record. I just simply question the cost and methods that may or may not be used to achievements these great record setting benchmarks . . . Ultimately, my friends, that will be left to the new generation of sports fans to decide . . . For, I live in the old days and the memory of my childhood sports heroes. In my mind and heart, those records will never be broken.

 

Get over it. Modern era players do this, it's irrelevant. If Hank A had the chance , he'd have juiced it too. The record will be broke again anyway, prob much sooner than later.


QUOTE=oneshot]can we move on from this cheater now?[/QUOTE]

 

Remember, Bonds is being charged with perjury..not for using steroids.

Even some of the pitchers he faced used steroids. It just so happened that he broke the record and not Canseco, Sheffield, Giambi etc, etc. and on, and on.

 

Sure there would be, look at Mark McGuire and his tainted single season HR record.

 

Race has absolutely nothing to it. Hank Aaron was black and he broke a white man's record. No person in thier right mind had a problem with it then or now. It's the way Barry has treated the media. He treats them like garbage and subsequently they all hate him, so naturally their reports about him are gonna be a little on the negative side. He did it to himself. Just the other day they asked him if he had any regrets in his career and he said "I would have treated the media better". Now he realizes he can't win in the media's eyes so he regrets it.

 

756*

 

Can I Get Barry to Autograph Some "CREAM & CLEAR" for me?
GO DODGERS! We Got Sweeney!

 

You also got Jason Schmidt. Thanks for that.

 

And you guys paid how much for Barry Zito?

 

Ooh, you went there. How original. Broken down to annual salaries, Schmidt is getting over 5 million more than Zito. We'll see who's pitching career will end first. My guess is Schmidt's shoulder will cause him to retire soon, while Zito will still be pitching through his contract. Now who's overpayed?