At least Barry Zito can physically throw a pitch.

Add up the salaries of Tim Lincecum, Matt Cain, Noah Lowry's salary plus Zito's and divide it by 4. Zito may be high but our other studs are dirt cheap which makes up for it. We got pitching prospects galore. Doesn't look to bad to me?

 

He grew 1" taller between the years 1996 and 1997, and put on 15 lbs of body mass...AT AGE 31!

Please explain how the f*ck you grow 1" taller at that age, unless you're on growth hormones/steroids?

I rest my case.

 

From another thread topic. A very well composed thought.

 

I don't know who measured him to find at 1" taller? People use that all the time, where is that that he is 1" taller? A report? Have you ever seen how much an NBA player's "reported" height differentiates between reports, player cards, video games, etc?
As for body mass, please don't try and compare Barry Bonds to other atheletes. He is unlike any other athelete. He is a freak. Throw into that a hard-worker, a rigorous work out routine, access to a personal chef controlling all intake of food, and blood work from the most high-tech resources. Is he still on steroids because he is about as massive as he'e ever been? He is a physical freak.
But that's not even the issue. You are right. I believe he did mess with steroids. But you can't diminsh his skills. He is the home run king. There is no one else even close to him and tons of guys took steroids. Even A-Rod, if you believe Jose Canseco, is involved with steroids. It was part of the game, like discrimintory color issues, game fixing, strikes, and other lame events that have effected baseball.

 

I got that info from a year by year comparison of his height and weight from his rookie year up until the present time.
Between the years of 1996 and 1997 he grew 1" taller. That just doesn't happen when you're 31 years of age. It just doesn't.

I read the article in Newsweek, I think. It was from a credible source.

 

Yup. How long has this steroid issuse been out? Since 2003? Do people actually still think he is using steroids? Bonds still knocking em out with regularity.

 

Newsweek is the media. They thrive off scandals like this. What really is credible?

 

Ok But why are the Dodgers 6 games back and only 3 games back for the wild card. the giants are what 16 1/2 games behind? That's why the fire sale ditching first morris, then sweeney. For a player to be named later?! That shows me you already gave up on making the playoffs. We could always use roberts back. so who's next to go? Well you always have 758 to look foward to......

 

I can't argue that the Giants stink. They stink bad, but the pitching is gonna be sweet for a few years. Pitching is always a good place to start. The Dodgers aren't a bad team. I'm not here trying to say they are. Just like most of the teams in the NL West they are decent. Not overpowering, not bad, but decent. As for Playoffs, hell we gave up on those months ago. The Fire sale was actually great. The Giants got rid of $13 millon from crappy-*** Matt (overpaid, over-rated) Morris and got Rajai Davis (8 SB in 13 games hitting .417). Sweeney was rotting on the bench and never played anyways. He might as well been gone. Roberts is decent, but we already had Randy Winn who is basically the same player. The Dodgers are always gonna be competitive, and the Giants are gonna be in a tough spot for a year or two but they now will have soooo much cap room next season assuming they don't re-sign Bonds, that they can grab a fews more studs. We need bats, bad. Miguel Cabrera, A-Rod, here we come.
I love a spirited baseball debate, let's keep it up.

 

So newsweek measured him?

 

Yeah The Giants & Dodgers Have the Best Rivalry In the National league, The Yankees and Red sox the best in the American League. dodgers have been on a Bad Slide the Starters are 0-12???!!! They've lost 12 of the last 15......Dodgers need a Big Bat REAL bad. It'll be interesting to see whom goes where in the next few months.

 

Why would you want to be considered "the best" or "the greatest" anything if you cheated to get there?

So Barry Bonds hitting homeruns doesn't do anything for me.

 

Many people, myself included, considered him one fo the greatest players of all time and certainly the best in the league before 2001.