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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Yeah, it sucks Nick. I know you wanted to get a few more months out of those tires. I'm glad you found out like this though instead of a blow out on the freeway.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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yea, no spare tire FTL.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nchima
Everyones initial thought was it may have been the toe. The alignment shop guy, named Alex @ Radial Tire Service in Sacramento said that the toe was okay.
How did the tire look? Was it worn away on the inside?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2009 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dofu
How did the tire look? Was it worn away on the inside?
yea, it was/still is literally just ripped off the inner wheel. I'll get pics up once I get my new tires, still looking around, 19 tires are to much $ ... o well.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 08:30 AM
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It definitely sounds like excessive toe... When you get into your car and start driving, you put a load on your suspension, and your wheels want to point out. To counter this, you want a bit more toe in so you have zero toe at highway speeds. Too much toe out will cause the inside of the tires to scrub, and if your tire went out on you after the alignment, that could most likely be the cause of your tire failure... but don't quote me on that... I haven't seen the tire for myself yet, and with that much camber, excessive toe in can be just as bad on the inside of the tires (the only part touching the road).

Keep in mind that with the toe adjusted correctly, excessive camber will only result in uneven tire wear, but that shouldn't lead to any unusual tire failure. You'll just wear out the inside of the treads before the outside, and like an alignment without that much camber, you'll wear the tires down to the metal and eventually experience tire failure.

Now, on a RWD car, you want toe in on the rears for stability. Toe out may be good if you're tracking your car, but your car will be less stable at higher speeds. Think of it as a give or take... Ideally, on a daily driver, you want the toe in so that the tires are at zero toe under load too, if not a bit of toe in. So if you ever feel that the rear wheels are ready to kick out whenever you hit a bump or even when you're accelerating, you have too much toe out.

Now if your tires were cupping, that would be a completely different story... That basically means something is broken.

And also keep in mind that it's not impossible to have a defective tire.

And after all this I just typed, I haven't even begun on how turning will affect your toe and tire wear...


Although it wouldn't be too suitable to other people, this would be an ideal alignment for me with my set-up...

Front Toe:
Left: -0.4
Right: -0.25/0.3

Front Camber:
Left: -2.5
Right: -2.5

Rear Toe:
Left: -0.25/0.3
Right: -0.25/0.3

Rear Camber:
Left: -1.5
Right: -1.5
 

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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 02:24 PM
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I'm going to post some pics tonight, they won't be the greatest, being that they will be taken at night. But, I don't want to have to buy tires and run into the same issue again. SEE PICS Tonight!!!

And dofu, thanks for all the info, it helps a lot.
 
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