VEN0M's G35: Progress Page
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Either samples or a site that shows pictures of the paint on the car, etc. Like House of Kolor has their gallery, but they dont have the flat i want.
He's done quite a great amount of work but the site doesn't seem updated.\
http://optbs.com/Home_Page.html
http://optbs.com/Home_Page.html
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Oh, really? Sounds good. And no worries, regardless, as I suspect I will be more leaning towards matte-blacking the Z more than the G............to kinda go with the "glorified" - circa 70s - vinyl top look. Personally, not really into drop-tops unless I can make it very unique and they must properly mimic coupe shape, like with Porsche 911s. The 370 roadster, unlike the Boxster-like 350 seems to do that much better.
That said, I would likely be asking you for a paint shop reference, though I do have someone in Broward - Ram & Sons - in mind. They do good work, but if work performance is equal, I'd take the savings (assuming it's hundreds) and put toward what else? More mods!!
Anyway, dude, while great car mod minds think alike, I'd argue that we cherish creativity and don't wanna look exactly alike........but I digress. I'll keep an eye out for the Tower Shoppes meet. One last thing to verify, if you could - the difference between flat & matte blacks. Is the following accurate?
1) As far as I know, the are VERY close. Flat is well, flat. Matte is just a little less flat. But not quite a semi gloss. (from Ferrari forum)
and
2) They are pretty similar but i believe the matte has a slightly glossier finnish... almost too slight to tell... (from a Tacoma forum):
flat ---> matte ---> satin ---> semi-gloss ---> gloss
They're frickin' confusing me man!!
Dammit. 
Get me straight. Thanks.
That said, I would likely be asking you for a paint shop reference, though I do have someone in Broward - Ram & Sons - in mind. They do good work, but if work performance is equal, I'd take the savings (assuming it's hundreds) and put toward what else? More mods!!
Anyway, dude, while great car mod minds think alike, I'd argue that we cherish creativity and don't wanna look exactly alike........but I digress. I'll keep an eye out for the Tower Shoppes meet. One last thing to verify, if you could - the difference between flat & matte blacks. Is the following accurate?
1) As far as I know, the are VERY close. Flat is well, flat. Matte is just a little less flat. But not quite a semi gloss. (from Ferrari forum)
and
2) They are pretty similar but i believe the matte has a slightly glossier finnish... almost too slight to tell... (from a Tacoma forum):
flat ---> matte ---> satin ---> semi-gloss ---> gloss
They're frickin' confusing me man!!
Dammit. Get me straight. Thanks.
Thank you for the kind words friend. Although I will have to rain on your parade. I will be doing a flat matte black paint job in the somewhat near future. It all depends on a few things, but that will be my coup de gras.
We are having a towers meet soon and I will be attending. You can definitely see it there.
We are having a towers meet soon and I will be attending. You can definitely see it there.
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From: Miami, FL
That color seems ot be the perfect match for me. Id like to see a close up if i ever could. Thing is your guy is in WPB, way too far for me. About a 2hr drive. Way too far for me. Especially to drive fresh paint back. Pero gracias man. Your are a G among G's (pun intended).
The question of difference between flat and matte and the other colors all depends on the sheen. Sheen is basically the level of light reflection there is. For example, gloss would be about a 80-90% sheen, reflecting almost everything. My wheels are about 50-60% sheen. They dont reflect that much. What i am aiming for is 15-25% sheen, if not lower.
Now as far as the difference between the two, that i cant really say.
Oh, really? Sounds good. And no worries, regardless, as I suspect I will be more leaning towards matte-blacking the Z more than the G............to kinda go with the "glorified" - circa 70s - vinyl top look. Personally, not really into drop-tops unless I can make it very unique and they must properly mimic coupe shape, like with Porsche 911s. The 370 roadster, unlike the Boxster-like 350 seems to do that much better.
That said, I would likely be asking you for a paint shop reference, though I do have someone in Broward - Ram & Sons - in mind. They do good work, but if work performance is equal, I'd take the savings (assuming it's hundreds) and put toward what else? More mods!!
Anyway, dude, while great car mod minds think alike, I'd argue that we cherish creativity and don't wanna look exactly alike........but I digress. I'll keep an eye out for the Tower Shoppes meet. One last thing to verify, if you could - the difference between flat & matte blacks. Is the following accurate?
1) As far as I know, the are VERY close. Flat is well, flat. Matte is just a little less flat. But not quite a semi gloss. (from Ferrari forum)
and
2) They are pretty similar but i believe the matte has a slightly glossier finnish... almost too slight to tell... (from a Tacoma forum):
flat ---> matte ---> satin ---> semi-gloss ---> gloss
They're frickin' confusing me man!! Dammit.
Get me straight. Thanks.
That said, I would likely be asking you for a paint shop reference, though I do have someone in Broward - Ram & Sons - in mind. They do good work, but if work performance is equal, I'd take the savings (assuming it's hundreds) and put toward what else? More mods!!
Anyway, dude, while great car mod minds think alike, I'd argue that we cherish creativity and don't wanna look exactly alike........but I digress. I'll keep an eye out for the Tower Shoppes meet. One last thing to verify, if you could - the difference between flat & matte blacks. Is the following accurate?
1) As far as I know, the are VERY close. Flat is well, flat. Matte is just a little less flat. But not quite a semi gloss. (from Ferrari forum)
and
2) They are pretty similar but i believe the matte has a slightly glossier finnish... almost too slight to tell... (from a Tacoma forum):
flat ---> matte ---> satin ---> semi-gloss ---> gloss
They're frickin' confusing me man!!
Dammit. Get me straight. Thanks.
The question of difference between flat and matte and the other colors all depends on the sheen. Sheen is basically the level of light reflection there is. For example, gloss would be about a 80-90% sheen, reflecting almost everything. My wheels are about 50-60% sheen. They dont reflect that much. What i am aiming for is 15-25% sheen, if not lower.
Now as far as the difference between the two, that i cant really say.
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Thanks, amigo! I think I got it.........it's about the sheen. And based on the same principle it relates well to window tint percentages. Whether you get 5% - 20% - 35% tint (limo - you can get away with it - legal), it all refers to what percentage of light is allowed to travel thru the tint.
With the paint, of course, it's about the opposite - light reflection. Most importantly, with 20% tint all-around my G/limo in the front visor, your 15-25% target seems to be right on for my tastes also.
So, I appreciate you sharing the knowledge. When the time comes I shall look for paint samples in the 20s or lower. I mean, how much gloss can a true flat-blacker want?............is the question. Shouldn't be much.
In closing, however, I make one slight correction. True, I may have just did a bit of an editorial of what you posted. But, not only do I say you know the difference, you just broke it down scientifically, thereby allowing me to offer a slightly different take.
Adios, brother. I'll be seeing you around; keep up the good work. Needless to say, if you see me in the street? HOLLLLA!!
('Fore you go wide open throttle and embarrass me, a lowly 280 HP stocker - possibly in front a female companion
- with that Stillen Stage 2 and Catback setup. Naw; I wouldn't be mad atcha. You installed it. Use it! I would. )
He gone!
With the paint, of course, it's about the opposite - light reflection. Most importantly, with 20% tint all-around my G/limo in the front visor, your 15-25% target seems to be right on for my tastes also.
So, I appreciate you sharing the knowledge. When the time comes I shall look for paint samples in the 20s or lower. I mean, how much gloss can a true flat-blacker want?............is the question. Shouldn't be much.
In closing, however, I make one slight correction. True, I may have just did a bit of an editorial of what you posted. But, not only do I say you know the difference, you just broke it down scientifically, thereby allowing me to offer a slightly different take.
Adios, brother. I'll be seeing you around; keep up the good work. Needless to say, if you see me in the street?
HOLLLLA!! ('Fore you go wide open throttle and embarrass me, a lowly 280 HP stocker - possibly in front a female companion
- with that Stillen Stage 2 and Catback setup. Naw; I wouldn't be mad atcha. You installed it. Use it! I would. )He gone!
That color seems ot be the perfect match for me. Id like to see a close up if i ever could. Thing is your guy is in WPB, way too far for me. About a 2hr drive. Way too far for me. Especially to drive fresh paint back. Pero gracias man. Your are a G among G's (pun intended).
The question of difference between flat and matte and the other colors all depends on the sheen. Sheen is basically the level of light reflection there is. For example, gloss would be about a 80-90% sheen, reflecting almost everything. My wheels are about 50-60% sheen. They dont reflect that much. What i am aiming for is 15-25% sheen, if not lower.
Now as far as the difference between the two, that i cant really say.
The question of difference between flat and matte and the other colors all depends on the sheen. Sheen is basically the level of light reflection there is. For example, gloss would be about a 80-90% sheen, reflecting almost everything. My wheels are about 50-60% sheen. They dont reflect that much. What i am aiming for is 15-25% sheen, if not lower.
Now as far as the difference between the two, that i cant really say.
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Posts: 1,078
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From: Miami, FL
Thanks, amigo! I think I got it.........it's about the sheen. And based on the same principle it relates well to window tint percentages. Whether you get 5% - 20% - 35% tint (limo - you can get away with it - legal), it all refers to what percentage of light is allowed to travel thru the tint.
With the paint, of course, it's about the opposite - light reflection. Most importantly, with 20% tint all-around my G/limo in the front visor, your 15-25% target seems to be right on for my tastes also.
So, I appreciate you sharing the knowledge. When the time comes I shall look for paint samples in the 20s or lower. I mean, how much gloss can a true flat-blacker want?............is the question. Shouldn't be much.
In closing, however, I make one slight correction. True, I may have just did a bit of an editorial of what you posted. But, not only do I say you know the difference, you just broke it down scientifically, thereby allowing me to offer a slightly different take.
Adios, brother. I'll be seeing you around; keep up the good work. Needless to say, if you see me in the street? HOLLLLA!!
('Fore you go wide open throttle and embarrass me, a lowly 280 HP stocker - possibly in front a female companion - with that Stillen Stage 2 and Catback setup. Naw; I wouldn't be mad atcha. You installed it. Use it! I would. )
He gone!
With the paint, of course, it's about the opposite - light reflection. Most importantly, with 20% tint all-around my G/limo in the front visor, your 15-25% target seems to be right on for my tastes also.
So, I appreciate you sharing the knowledge. When the time comes I shall look for paint samples in the 20s or lower. I mean, how much gloss can a true flat-blacker want?............is the question. Shouldn't be much.
In closing, however, I make one slight correction. True, I may have just did a bit of an editorial of what you posted. But, not only do I say you know the difference, you just broke it down scientifically, thereby allowing me to offer a slightly different take.
Adios, brother. I'll be seeing you around; keep up the good work. Needless to say, if you see me in the street?
HOLLLLA!! ('Fore you go wide open throttle and embarrass me, a lowly 280 HP stocker - possibly in front a female companion
- with that Stillen Stage 2 and Catback setup. Naw; I wouldn't be mad atcha. You installed it. Use it! I would. )He gone!
For example:
Take a look at this truck
Now look at this Ferrari
In terms of sheen, the truck has less of a shine than the Ferrari. however, compare the color contrast and you will see that the Ferrari is more "black" per se, than the truck. The truck is almost looking grey.
The color of the truck is what i am avoiding. I do not like that color. It is played out, and doesnt match my theme. I am looking for the combination of the trucks level of sheen, with the color of the Ferrari (basically what Tian posted on that M3). That is my ultimate goal.
This information i learned by talking to my powder coating guy as well as Wikipedia (believe it or not).
You will definitely see me out in the streets my man. I hope to see you around
gl
