I go a little over my estimation when i tell people the camber they need to run. -1.8 camber is not much at all, there are plenty of people and plenty of other cars that run over -2 degrees of camber from the factory. Yes, it's not in spec, but if you want the aggressive offsets and wider wheels, then you have to pay to play. It's not for everyone, but he obviously wants these wheels on his car so he is going to do what he needs to fit them.

okay, how about if i change the drop to 1.4" instead of 1.5"? it makes no difference, as long as its around there, he will be fine.

There really is no use in arguing over it, i've helped numerous members fit wheels on there car that nobody else thought was possible, not even they did, but i assured them time after time after time that it would, and guess what? i was right every time! sometimes, they even had more room than they needed.

So if the OP ends up with some extra room in the rear, he can dial in some positive camber and make the wheel/tire super flush.
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I'm not arguing it's more of a question. Why does anyone want to force fit wheels? A more agressive offset does NOT allow you to put wider wheels under it. If you order the RIGHT offset you can easily fit 10.5 under it. I really dig those wheels. I think they will look best one a car with "angles" (new CTS, Acura, etc) We are thinking about buying a Honda Oddessey (however it's spelled) and I these would look awesome under that vehicle. White with gunmetal, nice. I understand his goal, make um fit. But your theory of putting bad offsets on a car is in anyway a benefit I don't buy it, at some point your fender will be rubbing the tires. Correct offsets will not cause that. My car is really close to the specs you quote and these would seriously rub on my car. On my car 2 degree would not make them fit. Good luck, I really hope they fit and please post pics.

 

it's a style that alot of people are picking up on lately. There are many sacrifices that need to be made to pull off the look, but once achieved, it looks great (if it's your style) some people hate the aggressive look, but that's all up to them.

I would promise time and time again that they would fit, if in fact, they weren't going to fit. They might not fit your car because your car might not be low enough. But i guarantee that with the right drop and camber specs, you can fit alot of wheels that nobody ever thought was possible. Go take a look at the aggressive wheels/tires thread and you'll see what it's all about.

i've never said that "forcing" wheels to fit the car by altering the cars suspension geometry would have any added performance "benefit" They'll perform the same as a 10.5" +45 with a 275 tire, but they will be super flush and look better (IMO) there is no negative affect to running an aggressive wheel/tire and -2 camber is NOTHING. I used to run -3.4 on the rear of my car with a 20x10 +40 and a 275/30 tire with zero issues.
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Does it really matter how much the car is lowered? For example, if your car is only lowered 1.25" and has about 1.5 degrees of negative camber, when you hit a bump and the suspension compresses so your car is now 2.25" lower, doesn't the camber naturally increase to 2.5 degrees or so when the suspension is compressed?

So, when you say "fit" are you talking about it from the standpoint of the wheels/tires appearing to stick out past the fender (as would happen if the car wasn't lowered enough and/or sufficient negative camber is used)? Or are you talking about it from the standpoint of the wheels/tires actually hitting the fender?

 

Yes, it does matter how low the car is. If the car isnt low enough, it wont look right. The fender needs to be right at the top of the tire or lower for it to look how it's supposed to. Otherwise you'll have the wheels poking and the tire right at the fender, it will in fact look like the wheels DONT fit.

When i say "fit" i mean when the car is on the ground in it's normal state with a full suspension load. Not jacked up or in the air. You can never tell if wheels will fit when the car is up in the air with no suspension load.

like i said before, everybody that doesnt understand this "look" or "style" of aggressive wheels and tire needs to go check out this thread... and if you read through the whole thing, i've posted in most of the early pages but eventually gave up on trying to teach people what aggressive means, some people just dont get it.

https://g35driver.com/forums/picture...ost-em-up.html

 

so even running a 1.8 camber with lets say no drop the wheels will still poke out

 

assuming you do nothing they will stick out 37mm past your current wheels and 13mm less room to the inside. What you do next is up to you. 37 mm = 1.46 inches. If it's true that the stock wheel is 8.5" with 45mm offset, I think that's right for the sport rear end.

1 inch = 25.4mm

 

yes, if you do not drop the car at all, even with -1.8 camber, the wheels WILL stick out. That is why i said at the beginning of the thread...

You NEED a drop that is close to 1.5" and you NEED atleast -1.5 camber, the -1.8 is an inflated estimation.
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Catphook before you take any more fitment advice from Gdup35sedan Look at the link he was referring. I'm not knocking him (to each there own) but you need to make sure you understand what look and fitment he is suggests will FIT the sedan https://g35driver.com/forums/picture...ost-em-up.html He suggests to one guy that he was not aggressive enough with 10.5 40mm offset to basically man up and go extreme. He suggested 35mm which is pretty extreme. You just went 33mm.

 

wheels come today. springs come tomorrow. i hope to have pics soon

 

Well They fit.

 

Looks like they stick out a little bit. half and inch to an inch. I love the style of these wheels. Full body shot is requested.

 

They stick out and that's the look he is going for... the springs have not settled and once they do, the tire will tuck in a little bit more from the added negative camber. That would be my definition of perfect fitment... they dont rub, and they dont stick out far enough to look like they dont fit... therefor, they fit!

some people just dont understand the meaning of aggressive fitment and no matter how many times and how many different ways i try to explain it... they never will...
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and i suggested that before i knew that it wouldnt be aggressive enough... if it were my car...

I'd be doing a 9.5F +20 with a 225/40 10.5R +25 with 255/35 tire and -2 camber dropped 2" on coilovers.... but that's just me.
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I guess we are both Right. You like them sticking out and I don't. As I said from the beginning, they will stick out.