New Injen Cold Air Intake Infiniti G35 Sedan
Originally Posted by B L U E S L A T E
Same as buying a twin turbo kit... is it a wise financial decision? Probably not... but why do people want it?? Cuz they like it.
I don't think anyone is saying you're stupid for buying an intake for your car. It is, after all, a persional decision. However, to some, the performance per dollar ratio isn't enough to justify and stating that purchasing a 35k dollar car automatically makes you exempt from complaining about a 500 dollar modification that one would find personally unrewarding is quite unreasonable.
Originally Posted by Heracles
This product should not cost more than $300-$350...What the hell, for some simple mandrel bent steel intake runners for $600? Damn a BORLA catback thats all stainless for my cobra cost less than $600...
def not worth it.
def not worth it.
i agree with those saying that price/horsepower isn't what it should be...but hell, at least we don't own a bmw. mufflers run 2200 dollars on average for those e46 m3's...and they probably make the car lose horsepower but help get rid of the raspy tone...
am I going blind or are there still no pics?
Why is it that who ever gets this intake never takes pics or aleast decent pics of the install? I don't get it, if it was me I'd be all over those filters taking like a million pictures
Why is it that who ever gets this intake never takes pics or aleast decent pics of the install? I don't get it, if it was me I'd be all over those filters taking like a million pictures
Originally Posted by ugaexploder
well i see single intake systems going for 300 dollars...but we have a dual intake system, that's why we're paying about 250 for each intake...i don't see anything wrong with the price.
i agree with those saying that price/horsepower isn't what it should be...but hell, at least we don't own a bmw. mufflers run 2200 dollars on average for those e46 m3's...and they probably make the car lose horsepower but help get rid of the raspy tone...
i agree with those saying that price/horsepower isn't what it should be...but hell, at least we don't own a bmw. mufflers run 2200 dollars on average for those e46 m3's...and they probably make the car lose horsepower but help get rid of the raspy tone...
The aftermarket companies HAVE figured out that people are dumb enough to rationalize these purchases... "I just spent $55k on my M3, so what's another $2200..."
Originally Posted by silverG2007
Just more examples of rip offs.
The aftermarket companies HAVE figured out that people are dumb enough to rationalize these purchases... "I just spent $55k on my M3, so what's another $2200..."
The aftermarket companies HAVE figured out that people are dumb enough to rationalize these purchases... "I just spent $55k on my M3, so what's another $2200..."
There are a hundred thousand Honda civic owners that will buy an Injen intake. There are a thousand G35 drivers that will buy an Injen intake. The cost of the R&D is almost the same, probably higher ont he G given the dual intake design. That cost has to be recouped over fewer units, which is why an exhaust for an M3 is $2200, the dual intake for a G is $500.
Originally Posted by ugaexploder
there's a big difference between being able to afford expensive things and thinking that your money is better spent elsewhere. just because you and i might not be able to afford a 2200 exhaust system does not make it a "ripoff"...even though that particular item is a ripoff
I can "afford" to pay $5 for a soda. It's still a rip off.
IMO, "rip off" is based on the cost to manufacture something compared to the price. Also taken into consideration is similar products and prices.
Originally Posted by LiquidGx
There are a hundred thousand Honda civic owners that will buy an Injen intake. There are a thousand G35 drivers that will buy an Injen intake. The cost of the R&D is almost the same, probably higher ont he G given the dual intake design. That cost has to be recouped over fewer units, which is why an exhaust for an M3 is $2200, the dual intake for a G is $500.
Bend pipe, test fit, bend pipe, test fit, dyno, sell.
That's pretty much it. They aren't reinventing the wheel.
Sure, if you sell thousands of one product vs. a few dozen of another, you can discount the high seller (a little).
But, there are probably waaaaaay more intakes available for the Civic. Small companies should be able to churn out a low volume of performance parts at a decent price.
But, since they're selling to BMW owners, they don't have to.
I've actually personally experienced the "R&D" from an aftermarket parts company.
My brother's Trailblazer SS was used to create a tuning program as a Beta vehicle.
The company borrowed his truck, spent 2 days tuning and on the dyno. Sent him his truck back.
It cost them 2 days, and a free tuner for my brother. R&D complete.
And tuning is waaaay more complicated than designing an intake or catback exhaust.
My brother's Trailblazer SS was used to create a tuning program as a Beta vehicle.
The company borrowed his truck, spent 2 days tuning and on the dyno. Sent him his truck back.
It cost them 2 days, and a free tuner for my brother. R&D complete.
And tuning is waaaay more complicated than designing an intake or catback exhaust.
Originally Posted by silverG2007
Here's the problem. The "cost of R&D" for intakes and exhausts is very very low.
Bend pipe, test fit, bend pipe, test fit, dyno, sell.
That's pretty much it. They aren't reinventing the wheel.
Sure, if you sell thousands of one product vs. a few dozen of another, you can discount the high seller (a little).
But, there are probably waaaaaay more intakes available for the Civic. Small companies should be able to churn out a low volume of performance parts at a decent price.
But, since they're selling to BMW owners, they don't have to.
Bend pipe, test fit, bend pipe, test fit, dyno, sell.
That's pretty much it. They aren't reinventing the wheel.
Sure, if you sell thousands of one product vs. a few dozen of another, you can discount the high seller (a little).
But, there are probably waaaaaay more intakes available for the Civic. Small companies should be able to churn out a low volume of performance parts at a decent price.
But, since they're selling to BMW owners, they don't have to.
But you have to pay... "
Originally Posted by silverG2007
I've actually personally experienced the "R&D" from an aftermarket parts company.
My brother's Trailblazer SS was used to create a tuning program as a Beta vehicle.
The company borrowed his truck, spent 2 days tuning and on the dyno. Sent him his truck back.
It cost them 2 days, and a free tuner for my brother. R&D complete.
And tuning is waaaay more complicated than designing an intake or catback exhaust.
My brother's Trailblazer SS was used to create a tuning program as a Beta vehicle.
The company borrowed his truck, spent 2 days tuning and on the dyno. Sent him his truck back.
It cost them 2 days, and a free tuner for my brother. R&D complete.
And tuning is waaaay more complicated than designing an intake or catback exhaust.
Step 1:Pull down the code from the ECU and verify that it was the same as every other GM v6 truck/suv.
Step 2: Give an olde part a new part number
Step 3: Market the "Trailblazer Specific Tuner"
I had a G35 coupe when they first came out (late 2002). I spent hours on the boards researching mods and asking questions. I put a lot of thought into it. Three years later when I sold it it was bone stock. Too much thinking, too little fun. I'm not saying I'm going to go out and blow money on everything that claims to gain HP, but I won't be putting too much thought trying to rationalizing every dime.
yada yada yada, I ordered one of these on Sunday but it's on back order already (everywhere I could find them).
Hopefully in a couple of weeks (and after hours of labor) I'll have a few horsepower at about $100 each or so. I'll let you know whether I think its "worth it" given my disposable income.
yada yada yada, I ordered one of these on Sunday but it's on back order already (everywhere I could find them).
Hopefully in a couple of weeks (and after hours of labor) I'll have a few horsepower at about $100 each or so. I'll let you know whether I think its "worth it" given my disposable income.



