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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 01:42 PM
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1 Step Colder Spark Plugs

I am having a really hard time looking for 1-Step colder spark plugs for the VQ35HR. Has anyone been able to find a set? I wouldn't feel comfortable spraying without them.

I believe the OEM part number is 22401EW61C.

The only after market plugs I was able to find were the FXE22HR11 from Denso, but they're not colder.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Okay here is what I found.

The NGK plug for the HR motor is a 3442 for which the NGK number is R5673-9. On NGK, the number after the - is the heat range and the larger the number, the colder the plug is. So, you can actually get a R5673-10
http://www.google.com/products?hl=en...-revision&cd=1
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Definitely don't spray without them. You want to go 1 step colder for every 100hp or so.

Let us know how the nitrous goes!!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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talk to GTM they should know which ones you need.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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I think I may have found them: http://www.hrautoparts.com/g35ngk.html
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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I think those are for the DE not the HR but I didn't look specifically.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:22 PM
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colder retards the timing correct?
 
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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A colder plug is safer because it lowers the risk of detonation...don't know where the "1 Step colder plug for every 100HP or so" came from, in my case my 400WHP SE-R would need about 3 steps colder plugs (which is not the case) but its a general rule to run atleast 1 step colder when detonation could be a problem.

You just need to worry about the thread size and resistance type (and obviously heat). Other than that, there isn't much about being vehicle/motor specific. I'm sure the plugs that fit/work on the HR motor is on a ton load of other cars/motors as well.
 
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by snowcrossmxz
colder retards the timing correct?
snowcross,, your joking right?? do colder heat range plugs change are snowmobile engines timing??? heck no!!!!!
 
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by blkdragn
A colder plug is safer because it lowers the risk of detonation...don't know where the "1 Step colder plug for every 100HP or so" came from, in my case my 400WHP SE-R would need about 3 steps colder plugs (which is not the case) but its a general rule to run atleast 1 step colder when detonation could be a problem.

You just need to worry about the thread size and resistance type (and obviously heat). Other than that, there isn't much about being vehicle/motor specific. I'm sure the plugs that fit/work on the HR motor is on a ton load of other cars/motors as well.
Obviously you have to read the plugs to see if they're too hot, too cold, or just right. The 1 step is a general rule of thumb.

Here's the info from NGK's website:
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_su...d.asp?mode=nml

"Typically, for every 75-100 hp you add, you should go one step colder on the spark plug's heat range."
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Triton3.5
snowcross,, your joking right?? do colder heat range plugs change are snowmobile engines timing??? heck no!!!!!

actually it does, depends on how much compression you are running, type of fuel



here let me google it for you

http://www.ronlund.com/shim.htm
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Reading...ugs_for_racing
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...hp/t-1036.html
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by snowcrossmxz
actually it does, depends on how much compression you are running, type of fuel



here let me google it for you

http://www.ronlund.com/shim.htm
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Reading...ugs_for_racing
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/f...hp/t-1036.html
I'm sorry but I failed to find anything in those links you provided about how changing to a colder plug will directly retard your timing. Your timing is not set by the heat range of plug you run. If I set my timing at 15 degrees, it will be 15 degrees whether I go colder or not. In those links they're stating that changing to a colder plug WHILE lowering your timing will reduce the risk of detonating.

Back to the subject, 1 step colder should be fine for Nitrous.
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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yessssss paul .. i cant wait to see it done ..
did you get in touch with z-medic??
 
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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Maybe I was confusing with my statement. Like you said timeing can't "directly" be changed by plug teps. But changing the temp of your plug will have the same net effect as a timeing change of +- 1 or 2 deg if you are having a problem with pinging.

It's like fine tuneing it
Would u agree?
 
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Good idea going one step colder
 
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