What's the "pecking" order as far as A/M BBK brakes?

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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What's the "pecking" order as far as A/M BBK brakes?

Without getting obscene and into the "esoteric" stuff like Endless, Mu, etc, what's the "pecking" order of the readily available aftermarket BBK brake kits such as:

Wilwood
Stoptech
Rotora
Brembo
Anything I miss?

Any "real" advantages to one kit over another? (With the exception of the Brembo GT stuff, they're all in the same relative ballpark price range). I know the Wilwood stuff is probably the lightest among the kits, but any other advantages would be enlightening.

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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:09 PM
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whats your goal? whats your budget?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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i liek this thread lets see where this goes. i will hold from my imput for now.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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so by brembo you mean OEM brembo?

a nice stoptech kit is damn near the price of endless or project mu. its not fair to take them out of the game
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:40 PM
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I would put your list

Brembo
Stoptech
Wilwood/Rotora

Wilwood and Rotora tied really. Many wilwood kits are pieced together by dealers, the wilwood kits themselves are probably ok. Rotora I don't think does much research about the cars and pad selection is nil.

Endless and Mu are cool, if the dollar exchange was better they'd be up there. I'm not a JDM head, I look at what works and what kind of support is available for parts.

Like wheels, brakes are a big thing on a car tracking or not. Even if I had all the brands listed available to me in a kit I'd choose Brembos.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pwebb
whats your goal? whats your budget?
Shorter stopping distances would be preferred. I won't track the car (no track here anyway), but I do drive the car for work everyday. I do get up to triple digits at times and need to stop quickly.
Less rotating mass will be a plus (of course), i.e. less mass of components.
Ease of pad changing.

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so by brembo you mean OEM brembo?

a nice stoptech kit is damn near the price of endless or project mu. its not fair to take them out of the game
No, not OEM brembo. I have an 08, so they don't apply to me. A Stoptech kit is no where near the Mu price.

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I would put your list

Brembo
Stoptech
Wilwood/Rotora

Wilwood and Rotora tied really. Many wilwood kits are pieced together by dealers, the wilwood kits themselves are probably ok. Rotora I don't think does much research about the cars and pad selection is nil.

Endless and Mu are cool, if the dollar exchange was better they'd be up there. I'm not a JDM head, I look at what works and what kind of support is available for parts.

Like wheels, brakes are a big thing on a car tracking or not. Even if I had all the brands listed available to me in a kit I'd choose Brembos.
Thanks for the info. Why Brembos?


Any other "big name" brands I missed?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Pad selection, product support, completeness of the kits. If name recognition is anything Brembo should be just as high as the high end JDM parts. If the JDM parts were more flooded into the US market the rarity would not be so "bling"

All the brands listed except for Rotora have a heritage in racing. The street kits are derived from the racing. Ask yourself what brand is used by supercars, race cars, and oems.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Does Brembo even offer a kit yet for the 07+ sedans? IIRC, I haven't seen one yet.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Fastbrake kit using Wilwood rotors and calipers>

http://www.hpautoworks.com/index.php...oducts_id=4584
http://www.hpautoworks.com/index.php...oducts_id=4679

full kit is about $4K. 18lb's per corner is a very good weight saving of unsprung rotational mass.
 
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Does Brembo even offer a kit yet for the 07+ sedans? IIRC, I haven't seen one yet.
http://www.racetechnologies.com/prod...Title=Infiniti

There's a 6/4 monobloc 380/345 set up available for the second gen Infinitis. They also have a front caliper upgrade available for the Akebono brake set ups.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Q8y_drifter
Fastbrake kit using Wilwood rotors and calipers>

http://www.hpautoworks.com/index.php...oducts_id=4584
http://www.hpautoworks.com/index.php...oducts_id=4679

full kit is about $4K. 18lb's per corner is a very good weight saving of unsprung rotational mass.
Maz,
I inquired with a different company concerning that setup versus a "genuine" Wilwood setup. It was said that Fastbrakes uses the components and machines the bracket necessary to mount the caliper. Strangely enough, the FB kit costs more than the Wilwood kit.

I'm not sure if the weight savings is the same or not.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by san~man
Does Brembo even offer a kit yet for the 07+ sedans? IIRC, I haven't seen one yet.
I stand corrected.....they do offer a GT kit for 07+ sedans.

***while he checks the price***
 
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Weight savings? Not sure where you are going with this. Weight of the caliper/bracket is almost irrevelant accross brands. The weight is in the rotor. If you are concered with weight, that means 2 pc rotors. But bigger dia 2pc will weigh more than smaller ones.

As said, depends on what you are doing. You really need 14" or 15" rotors?
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rookie
http://www.racetechnologies.com/prod...Title=Infiniti

There's a 6/4 monobloc 380/345 set up available for the second gen Infinitis. They also have a front caliper upgrade available for the Akebono brake set ups.
$4250 F and $3295 R Yikes.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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Weight savings? Not sure where you are going with this. Weight of the caliper/bracket is almost irrevelant accross brands. The weight is in the rotor. If you are concered with weight, that means 2 pc rotors. But bigger dia 2pc will weigh more than smaller ones.

As said, depends on what you are doing. You really need 14" or 15" rotors?
I haven't done much research. What do the OEM Akebono rotors weigh?

This Brembo 380mm front rotor weighs 19.4lbs
 
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