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Old 04-09-2007, 02:32 AM
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Toyo T1R's suck???

Sooooooo ...on my way home I ran over something on the NJ Turnpike got rear flat tire ...pissed

So next day (Fri) I go buy to new rear tires
I have Falken FK452's 285-30-20
but Ive heard lots of u guys talking about Toyo T1r's on here
so I go buy 2 for my rear they didnt have 285 so i settled for the 275-30-20
I got a unbeatable deal on them thanks to a friend of mine.

my question is what is the break-in period for tires? because so far the tires are not as good as my Falkens, the are a little noisy ...the falkens I could ot hear
& the traction doesnt seem to be as good,
(I drive with VDC off all the time) when Im coming home around 3am theres no one on the road & sometimes I like to drive prettty aggressive & hit corners pretty fast on wide streets (cuz no one else is on the road). the traction sucks ....these tires scare me

Im really starting to regret my purchase
so far Ive put about 90 miles on them
should i wait longer or are they broken-in already?
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 02:40 AM
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You've given up some width so traction will suffer a bit, and our cars are noisey allll the time so . . . no the Toyo's don't suck. I love mine, especially when its wet. Every brand will have its good and bad attributes, it just depends on which ones are most important to you. To be fair, I've never put Falkens on my G, so I guess I wouldn't be able to compare the two, I just know I like the Toyo's, for longevity, traction, and ride quality.
There shouldn't really be a "break in" but if these toyo's have a lot more tread on them right now compared to the falkens that were on your car, that might explain the road noise increase.
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Old 04-09-2007, 02:51 AM
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There is definitely a break-in period on all tires, including these. It'll take a few hundred miles, from what I understand, to burn off the chemicals in the top layer.
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
There is definitely a break-in period on all tires, including these. It'll take a few hundred miles, from what I understand, to burn off the chemicals in the top layer.
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Also apart from burning the top layer chemicals they use for storing NJ has been unbelievably cold.
Toyo's like any other summer tire do not like the cold so thats another thing to consider.
I would say give it 200 miles or start doing some burnouts whatever your pleasure is to break them in
 

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Old 04-09-2007, 08:15 AM
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I think toyos are too soft.
When I put M45 rims on with toyos I also noticed that my traction was not as good as it was with stock tires. And now after only 10k my rear are almost gone. They do preform great on rain, but I'll be looking for something else after this set.
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Glex25
^+1

Also apart from burning the top layer chemicals they use for storing NJ has been unbelievably cold.
Toyo's like any other summer tire do not like the cold so thats another thing to consider.
I would say give it 200 miles or start doing some burnouts whatever your pleasure is to break them in

As a matter of fact u are very right
T1R is a summer tire & it has been cold here in NJ ...we had snow flurries Sat & Sun.!!!
+ what triple8sol said about burning off the chemicals, I've heard that before

this is why i come here, u guys make it all make sense

I'll give it a few weeks to put some more miles on them & by then the weather should have warmed up a bit

...global warming sux we hit 70 degrees 2 weeks ago & get snow flurries this weekend
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:30 PM
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I think the Toyos are decent. Also by the way have you changed your suspension at all?
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:36 PM
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I think the Toyos are decent. Also by the way have you changed your suspension at all?

no still running stock suspension

Im in the process of getting 350z H-Techs
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:55 PM
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toyos do suck. they're only good for a period of time imho. lol. nah, they're a good tire. as with other posts, there is a break in period where you should'nt be riding dirty at all.
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 02:04 PM
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How long did you have the Falkens?
I had Falkens on my 19's with 285's on the rear they didn't have very good tread wear.
When I bought my 20's I bought the T1R's and they seemed quieter and handled well they definitely improved after a few hundred miles. I live in Texas so it is warm now I have had them for a month or so.
 
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Originally Posted by G35Blake
How long did you have the Falkens?
I had Falkens on my 19's with 285's on the rear they didn't have very good tread wear.
When I bought my 20's I bought the T1R's and they seemed quieter and handled well they definitely improved after a few hundred miles. I live in Texas so it is warm now I have had them for a month or so.
dont know which Falkens u had
but the Falken FK451 (which are an older model) wear faster than the FK452's
also from researching ....FK452's are rated at 300 & the T1r's rated at 280 so the Toyos will most likely wear faster

Ive had my Falkens since i think last summer but I have 2 other cars hence I only had about 4k on the tires reason i replaced both rears is cuz i didnt want to have 1 half worn tire & 1 new one (blown tire couldnt be patched)
 

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Old 04-09-2007, 08:03 PM
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no they do the job I like the Toyo's, because they last long, traction, and ride quality. much better than stock!
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:06 PM
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I'll say it again. You can't compare treadwear ratings between different tire manufacturers (i.e. Toyo vs. Falken). Only within their lines (i.e. T1-S vs. T1R). Each company makes up their own treadwear rating system, so comparing b/w them means almost nothing.
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:09 PM
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actually.. i dont like my t1rs either.. i used to have general exclaim uhp. and those tires were a lottt better than my t1r's. i loose traction very easily with the toyos. only thing thats good about the toyos is that they look really nice but performance wise..there not that great of tires.. il be switching back to generals or ps2's for my next set
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:23 PM
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From what I hear, Toyo's do suck...big time!
 


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