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why not to use an impact wrench to put on wheellocks or lugs?

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Old 04-18-2009, 06:46 PM
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Impact wrenches also over time, stretch you lug studs making them weak.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:42 AM
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DUH, why they make torque limiter sticks for air tools. Every vehicle owner should have one to loan the tire changer just in case they don't have one. The best $25 you will ever spend.

http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-GP-28218.html
http://www.amazon.com/TORQUE-Extensi.../dp/B000JIYPA4
Those things suck, there probably accurate with 50 ft/p
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 01:58 AM
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for my summer wheels i always torque them down by hand, even removing, just afraid of the vibration of the gun will move too much and chip the wheel, it can happen!

stock/winter wheels, i loosen them with a torque gun, then tighten them with the torque gun attached to a 80 ft.lb. torque stick

that's what your typical dealership will do too
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 07:46 AM
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I've always used an impact wrench to remove/install my wheels and never have had a problem. If you know what you're doing it's fine. The problem is when people over tighten the lugs and then ytou can't get them off by hand.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:41 AM
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when you go to discount tire, or Infiniti to get your tires hanged or brakes done they use an impact with no torque limiter sockets/stick.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You may ask

Required torque is about 80 ftlbs or so. I've probably taken off/put on about 100 sets though the years. And have done numerous engine work where torque values are much more critical. So I believe I have a decent feel for what 80-95 ftlbs feel like. I probably error on the tight side though.

On your crank main caps, the tolerances for torque values are much more tight and critical.

Considering you wanted to use an impact wrench to torque the lugs down.... You do know that impact wrenches are nortoriously inconsistent and can vary wildly depending on settings, air availability etc...??
I hear what you are saying Jeff, but I am really surprised.
All the mechanical work you have done over the years, and you never purchased a couple of torque wrenches which are relatively inexpensive and will last forever if properly maintained.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:51 AM
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Your vehicle has written specifications demand that they prove their work otherwise refuse to pay.
Never seen a certified technican refuse to use a customer supplied torque stick or torque wrench.

What you tip people for, to do it your way
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lilindienplaya
when you go to discount tire, or Infiniti to get your tires hanged or brakes done they use an impact with no torque limiter sockets/stick.
I've had a couple things done recently at Tire Kingdom, and I made sure to ask that they use a TQ Wrench and not the impact when putting the wheels back on, and when I was talking to him, he was walking into the front from the shop area, and he said he had just brought the mechanic a TQ wrench for my car.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GEE35X
I hear what you are saying Jeff, but I am really surprised.
All the mechanical work you have done over the years, and you never purchased a couple of torque wrenches which are relatively inexpensive and will last forever if properly maintained.
I have access to a good torque wrench. Just don't use it for my wheels. A bit lazy, yes. But IMHO, wheels have a revatively large tolerance for torque.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I have access to a good torque wrench. Just don't use it for my wheels. A bit lazy, yes. But IMHO, wheels have a revatively large tolerance for torque.
+1, I don't bother with a torque wrench either with wheels. I tighten them as far as a can by hand, that way I know I can take them off if I'm on the side of the road. Just make sure you check them after 20-30 miles and you are good to go.
 
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Originally Posted by redlude97
+1, I don't bother with a torque wrench either with wheels. I tighten them as far as a can by hand, that way I know I can take them off if I'm on the side of the road. Just make sure you check them after 20-30 miles and you are good to go.
Ouch, if most people tightened them that tight there would be a few stripped studs around and lots of over-torqued wheels. 80ft-lbs is not very tight.
My torque wrenches are as handy as my sockets and other tools so I always use it.

Heck on my Z71 truck the torque for the wheel studs is 140 ft-lbs instead of 80 ft-lbs for our G35s, that is a huge difference.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GEE35X
Ouch, if most people tightened them that tight there would be a few stripped studs around and lots of over-torqued wheels. 80ft-lbs is not very tight.
My torque wrenches are as handy as my sockets and other tools so I always use it.

Heck on my Z71 truck the torque for the wheel studs is 140 ft-lbs instead of 80 ft-lbs for our G35s, that is a huge difference.

Try to get 80 ftlbs on a 3/8" 12" long breaker bar. You'd have to stand and jump on it (if you didn't break it first).

A 1/2" 24" bar is alot easier to get that but there's still a decent amount of force needed to get to that.

On my maxima, the front CV joint bolt needs about 160-ish ft lbs. I had to use a 3/4", 24" long breaker bar with long arsed cheater pipe to get that
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Try to get 80 ftlbs on a 3/8" 12" long breaker bar. You'd have to stand and jump on it (if you didn't break it first).

A 1/2" 24" bar is alot easier to get that but there's still a decent amount of force needed to get to that.

On my maxima, the front CV joint bolt needs about 160-ish ft lbs. I had to use a 3/4", 24" long breaker bar with long arsed cheater pipe to get that
Obviously, I am much stronger than you Jeff, my 1/2" dr breaker bar is only 14" long and I find it very easy to reach that torque of our cars. But then I probably weigh almost 100 lbs more than you.
 
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Old 04-20-2009, 05:34 PM
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You weigh 290lbs? yes I'm p-h-a-t
 
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You weigh 290lbs? yes I'm p-h-a-t
LOL not quite, thank goodness, I'm a heavy 235
 


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