I recently had my '03 Sedan lowered using HKS Hipermax LS coilovers. I then had my alignment done and I was told they could not correct my negative camber in the front because the HKS didn't have camber plates. So now I am at -1.4 degrees on the left and -1.8 degrees on the right. After a little research I found that Stillen and Kinetix both make front camber kits for my car. My questions are; has anyone used either of these camber kits and if so could you tell me how much you paid for the kits and install and if you are satisfied with the kits? Are there any other camber kits available? My main concern is uneven tire wear, especially since I will be upgrading my wheels/tires soon. Thanks in advance for any input you folks can give me.

 

stillen only makes rear camber bars AFAIK. Kinetix makes a replacement upper A arm that is adjustable. 350evo and performance nissan also have front, adjustable upper A arms that will work.

You're camber isn't terrible though and these upper A arms are spendy.

 

Stillen has a set listed on their website as "TBA" (pictured here). Hopefully these will be released soon. The Kinetix set is only $390. The Performance Nissan Racing and 350EVO sets are WAY too pricey. Thanks for the info al503!



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that's the first time I've seen the stillen. They look nice. The only thing to worry about is that any stillen part is pretty darn expensive. If I had to guess, they will be closer to the 350evo and the performance nissan price. It'll be interesting to see what their price will be. It's good to have more options though.

 

Just from pictures alone the 350EVO ones seem very good quality but at $800+??? Ouch! The Kinetix are a lot cheaper at half the price but not exactly sure on the quality. But that's only my opinion based on the pictures. I just installed my '03 350Z suspension and my front camber is -0.9 L and -1.3 R so there is that dispartiy.

04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
Z-Tube / NFC Y-Pipe / Custom Mid-Pipe / 350 EVO Rear Sway/ '03 350Z Shocks and Springs

 

Yeah, the Kinetix look kinda cheap, I'm hoping the Stillen set will be priced decent, maybe somewhere between the Kinetix and the 350EVO.

 

Darren, how much did it lower your sedan, how is the ride/handling?

I love the HKS.

 

I don't think anyone's had problems with the strength/durability of the kinetix that I've heard of. The only - I see is that you have to remove the wheel to make adjustments whereas the others allow adjustments with the wheel on. This would be a pain in the butt for the alignment dude to get it exactly right.

 

There is a company making camber plates that mount on the top of the strut tower.
I'm at a loss right now, where I saw them.
I'll try to dig it up, but it may take a couple of days.




<font color=blue>04 Silverstone G35, 5AT, Prem, Aero
ES100 225/45-18 front 245/40-18 rear
Borla TD, Z-tube, Eibach, 35%Tints</font color=blue>

 

FWIW I found the link..... thought it was on my home PC
I don't know if these have been used by NE1
camber plates

<font color=blue>04 Silverstone G35, 5AT, Prem, Aero
ES100 225/45-18 front 245/40-18 rear
Borla TD, Z-tube, Eibach, 35%Tints</font color=blue>

 

You cannot effect camber change on the Z or G from the top as the front suspension does not function that way. Coilovers that use non oem upper mounts are doing that to give you the benefit of a better mount, camber change is impossible that way. That being said what K-mac offers is a kit that replaces the upper A arm, where they do allow for camber adjustment. However, I've seen pics of their front kit, I would not touch it with a ten foot pole. I'd get the Kinetix kit, and I don't really care for that one either knowing how heavy the parts will be.

HKS LS coilovers are a comfort ride system, they are not ment to wow you with increased performance. Though they should certainly feel much better then the valving in the oem shocks, especially a non sport sedan. The LS+ would do a better job in that regard, but both system's suffer from transfering spring stiffness to the front. Such a transfer serves to increase understeer. The HKS Hypermax II and Hypermax RS would be a better choice for those wanting handling improvements as they will be valved tighter and do not suffer from lower rear spring rates and the resulting transfer of roll stiffness. All depends on what you want out of your car of course. (Notice that the LS transfers 44% roll stiffness to the front on the G)

HKS LS+ (rear springs are progressive)
496/440 +58%front +29%rear
transfers 29% roll stiffness to the front

HKS LS G35
448/336 43%front -1%
transfers 44% roll stiffness to the front

HKS LS 350z
448/448 43%front +31%
transfers 12% roll stiffness to the front

HKS II 504/504 +61%front +47%rear $1600
transfers 14% roll stiffness to the front

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G35 6mt

 

I specifically chose the LS for the comfort.

 

We have been developing our arms in the Grand Am Cup series for over a year and a half now. They have been designed, developed and tested through motorsports. The Grand AM Cup series races are 3 hour enduros and absolute torture on the cars
We went through a couple of designs on the upper control arms last year. We were the first team in North America to develop and race the Nissan 350Z professionally. Some of our early designs that we tested were very similar to those that are on or are coming to the market now .
I can only tell you that design changes were absolutely necessary for the loads that the front suspension is using. These design changes were made throughout last year. We then went to the first variation of our current CNC machined arm and made minor changes from there.
We have one goal in mind.....to provide the absolute highest quality RACE PROVEN parts for the 350Z and G35.
350EVO front upper control arms...superior strength,smooth mono ball bushings, most range of adjustment, easiest to adjust and good looking to boot.
Cheers
BJ@350EVO.com

350EVO.com
designed, developed, tested, and proven through Motorsports!!!

 

Thanks for the input.

 

Eloy, the Z supsension dropped my car 1" all around +/- a little bit. Didn't exactly take precise measuremnts at the time. Happy with the drop and the handling is definitely improved over the stock sport suspension. The bounce is there though allthough I have a higher tolerance and don't mind a reasonable tradeoff of comfort for performance.

04' G35S 6MT Ivory Pearl, Willow, Premium
Z-Tube / NFC Y-Pipe / Custom Mid-Pipe / 350 EVO Rear Sway/ '03 350Z Shocks and Springs