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Yes, I consider a wheel's weight when making a choice
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:28 PM
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My 19's are 23-23.5 lb. I didn't know that when I ordered them, but I was very hopeful they were light, or atleast not boat ancors.
thats not bad for 19"... there arent too many at or below 20... and most are mid 20"... imo anything less than 25 is worth consideration... but I cant even convince myself to pull the trigger on Volk GTS because they are closer to 25... I'm thinking about the new Advan RS-D its around 20...

Its hard to go heavier than the CEs I have, but I'm gonna have to I think...
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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^I got them at a steal too

I'm thinking about rigging up a fancy MOI torqe test against the stock 17s once I get tires on the 19s.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nfsp1
^I got them at a steal too

I'm thinking about rigging up a fancy MOI torqe test against the stock 17s once I get tires on the 19s.
17s are heavy and that size tire can be heavy too...

I didn't notice much if any difference when going from the 17s to what I have now (not in felt acceleration or ET at the track)... the overall weight is almost the same, tires are within a couple pounds I think (I'd have to pull out all the reference documentation I have on them to get exact weights)

But the f-ing pig heavy rotors I have now made a big difference! from under 15lbs with OC Autosport OEM size to the 30lb 14" that come with Akebono, acceleration is notably slower (not horribly, but noticeable for sure)... havent drag raced with these yet...

Anyway - what wheels do you have? And can you get another "steal"?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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^Privat Gassens. (Made by König) IDK if I can get another steal, I think they were almost out of them. But I'll check for you.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
There could be a half dozen or more configurations of what order considerations would be... however, this poll was to determine whether or not the majority of people care about wheel weight at all... you aren't the only one that stated the obvious though:



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what makes you say no one cares? Do I need to start another poll?

here are two posts just in this thread:



The variance in weight between same size tires is not nearly as broad as wheels... typically a few ounces to a couple pounds - and even though it is farther from hub so rotational mass is a factor even at low weight, a rim has huge variance in weight and therefore normally more of a concern for most people.
I honestly didn't read the thread it's self, just the first post and answered...lol.

Either way, the reason I said it was because it's something that's barely talked about. I see 100 topics about wheel weights yet there are very few about tire weight which is considerably more important than wheel weight since it's 100% on the outer limit of the wheel.

I've been searching for some tires ( I bought new wheels but put used tires on to give me time to look into new tires ) and within the same size I've seen as much as a 7lbs difference on various 245/35/20 tires and a 9lbs difference on various 275/30/20 tires....that's a bigger difference than the weight difference of my TSW's vs. some DPE wheels in my size and in the most important part of the wheel setup.

Now granted, if you get lightweight wheels AND lightweight tires then you're golden....but it's usually 4 times more expensive to do so which is what keeps a lot of people ( like myself ) away.

Plus, you also have to think about this....is it REALY that important? I mean, I feel my car the same going from oem 18's to 20's....and when racing my friends the outcome has been pretty much the same so...does it REALLY matter as much as people think it does?
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nfsp1
^Privat Gassens. (Made by König) IDK if I can get another steal, I think they were almost out of them. But I'll check for you.
other steals would be good too

Especially Advan RS-D... or even better, Rays RMP: REM Roga (its discontinued and I cant find anywhere)
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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^I'll let you know if I see anything.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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^I'll let you know if I see anything.
thnx
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by accordfreak
i have found pilot sports ps2 are one of the lightest tires. i saved a total of 4 lbs each wheel by switching the tires. 8 lbs of rotational mass is gone.
Yup. I saved that much when swapping out the RE050s to my Pilot Sports. I saved 6 lbs in back and about 3-4 up front. Major savings on the outside portion of wheel/tire package.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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Great thread. Thanks
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by accordfreak
i have found pilot sports ps2 are one of the lightest tires. i saved a total of 4 lbs each wheel by switching the tires. 8 lbs of rotational mass is gone.
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Yup. I saved that much when swapping out the RE050s to my Pilot Sports. I saved 6 lbs in back and about 3-4 up front. Major savings on the outside portion of wheel/tire package.
Toyo T1R are relatively light compared to some others as well... however, I've come to appreciate grip as much as light weight, so I might be inclined to give up a few pounds in favor of significantly better grip.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 02:53 PM
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I agree with ya. In my case with the re050s/Pilot Sports, I don't think I gave up anything but weight.

But the Toyos are pretty light and I would probably choose those also if grip was top priority.
 
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