Giving him cash isn't really the issue, it's not asking for a receipt that's mind blowing to me.

 

damn thats a shame. i was gonna order a set of kransons at the same time you and shane did when they ran the intro pricing. glad i didnt! im sure karma will catch up with him. sorry to hear about your trouble, danny.

 

Posting my dealings with these crooks so that all potential buyers know Goblin wasn't an isolated case for these guys.

I was the guy that got shafted on my original order (you, Shane, and whiteonwhite at least got something). They strung me from May to September with constant lies (when I was even able to get a call back, email back from anyone), in the 5 months:

- was told my wheels are almost done end of June
- called in July and they didn't even know what size I ordered (I thought they were almost done )
- I was sent a pic of my supposed wheels though it had 'G35' written on them (obviously the face for yours or Shane's)
- did initial CC chargeback, as soon as I told Carlos this he magically responded to me within an hour
- decided to give second chance, waited another 2 months and was probably told 5 different stories as to why my wheels aren't done.
- did final chargeback (got an email from Carlos to discuss after the fact lol)
- then in December my CC company contacts me saying that HDM filed a counter saying that my wheels were done and I never showed to pick them up (lol, from Edmonton, Canada - Miami). They claimed that they don't do international shipping, luckily I had emails and invoices clearly showing wheels were to be shipped.

FU Carlos/Mike/HDM/Kranson/etc. Bunch of crooks. Sorry to hear this mess, but hearing that Shane's are flaking it relieves me that I did the chargeback and ordered Works (sucks for you guys though).

 

Just posted this on MyG37, OurVQ, and The370Z.

 

damn dude, I personally would not have let a man who just stole $200 from me walk out of sight, you basically got robbed on the spot !!
if scrapping isn't an option I think calling the cops right there and then when he refused to give you the rest of your money would have been a good idea.


so what's next bro ? is your car project on hold now cuz of this mess ?? can you still get the lips you need directly from the lip manufacturer ??

 

Lol wow. I'll chime in tomorrow with my response, may be a few pages though. I may be too patient.

I will say that aside from all of this the actual wheels themselves are pretty top notch. So people saying the wheels are crap doesn't really make sense. As for the cracking, i may be partially to blame for that due to my aggressive setup and having my fenders touching my lips. They are painted not powdercoated or dipped, i opted for that for this exact reason, much easier to fix when this happens more cost effective. So quality was never an issue. But EVERYTHING else....well i'll get to that tomorrow.

 

Scrapping wouldn't do anything except land him in jail with a heap of litigation to follow. Now, calling the police would've been a better option but then again how can Danny prove that he in fact paid the deposit if there is no receipt? That's the problem and so he got shafted.

The damage has just started and will continue to spread around the forums and will eventually fall like MasterGrade and others.

Danny, contact the BBB and file a report. GL bro

 

^ I understand what youre sayin, but at the same time you gotta know that this is the same as someone ripping $200 out of your hand and trying to steal it. I would definitely fight for that, I don't know anyone personally who would just let it happen (girls included).

Fck I feel bad for the Goblin man, he was just getting around to massively pimpim his car to a whole notha level, I hope this doesnt fck with your plans Goblin, we all wanna see you finish what you started

But anyway back on topic, is this Carlos guy the owner of Kranson Forged, or just a sales rep?? And whats this talk about them having different names, whats the story on that?

 

I'm all for laying the guy out but you got to look at it from a legal aspect and realize that it's not worth it.

 

Wow, this is plain horrible. Thanks for steering everyone clear of these scumbags Danny. Sorry this happened to you homie!

 

No need for fighting or law enforcement. I know I should have gotten a reciept, but like I said whats done is done. All I can do now is inform.

Also... here is some interesting tid bits about when I initially ordered my wheels. There was a thousand an 1 excuses on why I could not come and they were not ready, etc.... I think I was emailed that same picture as Skullz.

So I got fed up one day, called him and threatened to cancel and then with in a few hours he called back to tell me they were done. I show up and the wheels are not even assembled, yet they are done. So I tell him I am gonna wait here til your guys assemble them.

They take a few hours to assemble them, I go to inspect them.... no centercaps, no through bolts, no valve stems. I ask him, and he tells me that he ran out of nuts to hold the wheel together. That he would overnight them to me so I would no need to drive and hour each way to pick them up, also to take the polished centercaps and he would paint some and send them at the same time. They then drilled the wheels for the valve stem on the inside, and I took the wheels half done.

Knowing that he was full of crap I sourced my own remaing hardware. Still till this day I guess I should be seeing my hardware come in any day now... lol
Also my center caps went to Shane and I got his. So we had to ship them to each other, cause he is a tard.

All in all the wheels are bad ***, and that is what makes this terrible. All of the pieces are top notch, it is just the worst managment / business I have ever dealt with. I could go on for days, just take my word for it. STAY AWAY NO MATTER WHAT HE PROMISES YOU.

 

Dude, sorry to hear. Thanks for posting.

 

Alright, well fvck ballz where do i start. Ima just tell my entire experience.
So as i'm about to put in my order for some work meisters, someone makes a thread with Kransons wheels. They looked so much like bbs gt-2's(my favorites wheels) that i had to find out more about them. So i contacted the OP and he told me it was his friends wheel company called Kranson Forged and he was gauging interest in this community. I go on to get His buddy's(Carlos) contact info and proceed to call him. I had talked to Carlos a few time about everything i wanted, specs, color, lips, etc. as well as discussing price. He seemed like a really stand up guy, really helpful, all that good stuff. So after getting everything squared away i sent them my 50% deposit for the wheels.
This was April 18th of last year.

Now when i had initially talked to Carlos i was informed that it will take about 6-8 weeks for the wheels to be finish and HE WOULD BE IN CONTACT WITH ME THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS. Awesome right. Yeah not so much...
So after sending my deposit THE COMMUNICATION WAS REAL GOOD........for about a week. So i don't hear anything or call for about 4 weeks. I then give them a call to get an update. After about 5 calls i finally get through to him. He gives me an excuse as to why he wasn't able to get to the phone. Ok fine no prob. Faces are done, he sends pics, all is good.

Couple weeks go by, again no calls, no email, nothing. So again i must take it upon myself to get ahold of him. Again it takes me more than a handful of call to 3+ different numbers. Finally get ahold of him. Lips are still being made, blah blah. Now keep in mind i couldn't careless about the time. I know custom wheels take time and that was never an issue for me, all i ever asked of Carlos was just to simply keep me int he loop and let me know whats going on even if nothing is going on.

Snap and i almost forgot, after i had ordered, the OP who made the original thread(Mike) was now working with him and was suppose to be helping me as well. Well i donno who this guy is but he is possibly the 2nd worst employee of all time, right behind Carlos. This guy didn't KNOW **** ABOUT WTF WAS GOING ON, EVER. He could not once give me an update on what was going on. Yet he had plenty of time to ask me about trying to hook him up with an inven front So finally i tell him i want to go through Carlos and Carlos only, i will not speak with anyone else since he can't even do his fvcking job.

So this BS went on for a total of 4 effing months. In that time frame i maybe got 3 texts/calls/emails from them giving me any kind of update or anything. And one was asking for the rest of the payment so the lips can be paid for....errr wtf. Stupidly i agreed and paid them in full before them being finish. So now he has my wheels and my money, whats the rush now.

Now i prob called this guy over 100 times in these 4 months and actually got ahold of him about 10 times. Every effing time i talked to him he had some BS excuss, frankly it got ridiculous. Some of these excusses included

-My phone died and i had to get a new one
-My wife is int he hospital so i have been there all week
-Someone at the lip manufactuer died so they stopped work for a few days
-We had a few employees that weren't doing their job so we had to fire them i'm in the process of restructuring
-My phone died....again
-I've been super busy getting investors for the company
-I've been super busy trying to get my own CNC machines so i can do most of the work in house

I mean the fvcking excuses went on and on and on. I mean how the hell does this guy even have a life, i mean he should be a effing millionaire with all this crap hes supposedly doing.

It was funny how you could never get ahold of him, yet when you threatened to do a chargeback, or cancel, or show any kind of back bone so to speak, he'd come running like flys on ****.

I actually had to send this guy a text asking how effing hard is to fvcking give me a call back when he says, "ill call you in a couple hours" then 8+ hours go by. And he calls me screaming to me about how his kid reads his phone and doesn't appriciate the language that i used. LMFAO you gotta be ****ing kidding me...This guy is more than just a piece of work, i have never met anyone like this guy. We had a few of these heated discussions and each time he forgets that we are paying effing customers not some random guy on the street who you can just talk shiit too.

So fast forward finally after 4 months i get my wheels. They turned out perfect, thankfully, through all that BS at least the wheels looked amazing.
Fast forward another month or so i start to see a small crack on both of my rear lips, which ends up progressing into a crack almost all the way around. Now i know this wasn't his fault and moreso were just defective lips sent to him by Triangle, but holy fvck ballz, does this really have to happen to me after all that BS, now i gotta deal with this fvcking guy again. So i attemp to call him yet again to get this squared away. Again phone call after phone call, no answer, get ahold of a receptionist at HDM tell me she will have him call back he busy with a customer(heard that one too about 50 times) Again no call back. RAGE. So i send him a nice lil text telling him to fvckin get back to be cause his lips are cracking and i didn't pay for this ****, etc, etc. HOLY MAGIC, he somehow i available now, gives me a call tells me to send to wheels back he will replace them. Ok, so finally he actually keeps in contact with me over the next few day before they go out, send DB Shenker to pick the wheels up, done. Get the wheels back slap them on the car. good to go.

All in all, this transaction with Kranson was BY FAR the worst experience i have ever had with anyone in my entire life. If he didn't have so much of my money things would not have played out so nicely. Luckily i was able to keep my cool, for the most part, through this entire fiasco. I was just about to send my wheels back to him to get new front lips as well, then Danny tell me what had just happened to him and the $200. I seriously can't believe it, but i can't say that i would expect anything else from that lowlife. I will now have to try and purchase new lips from Triangle themselves, there is no way im about to risk anymore time and money with this guy.

 

from reading all this, that sounds like the logical thing to do, for both you and Goblin....
by the way I sent you a PM bro, check it

 

Both Shane and I shared very similar experiences, I feel bad for Shane though at least I can drive and hour there to pop in to see the progress, I even took pics and emailed them to Shane over the process to show him is wheels, when carlos did not.