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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 05:06 PM
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sedan wheel fitment help!!

anyone know if its possible to fit a 19x11 +15 all the way around on my 06 sedan....obiously im going to need my fenders rolled.....im slammed on bc coils.....any help or advice would be much appreciated!!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 10:01 PM
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Not going to be possible...
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 03:31 AM
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 03:38 AM
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OP, you're for a bit of work.

First things you'll need.
1. Trusted tire shop
2. Sick alignment shop
3. Fender roller or a local fender work beast
4. Camber arms, probably best to get them for both front and rear just so the adjustments can be made easy.

To fit 19x11 +15 in the rear you're going to need roughly -6 degrees of camber and a decent pull. Obviously if you add more camber you can pull less and vice versa. You'll want to run a 255/35 or 245/35. 245 is probably your best bet and can save you about a degree of camber.

The front is a little trickier, you'll probably end up with your camber about -3.5 or -4. Definitely want a 245 up here to help clear the fenders and then you will need to trim your front bumper tabs a fair bit to clear the 245 front tire, You're most likely going to go through side markers once a month, so stock up or learn to live without em lol The rest can be made to fit with fender work, the front fenders are very thin and maleable so they are easy to pull and flare.

However, if this is your first attack at aggressive fitment maybe back it off a little. Try a 19x10 19x11 stagger or even a 9.5/10.5 stagger just to get a feel for stretched tires and start learning your offsets.

A lot people say this can't be done or that can't be done, especially when it comes to vendors. But what I posted above is a prime example, most vendors read a book and say well oem spec is 17x7.5 +45. A 9.5 +30 is probably the best bet for that application. But faaaawk that.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 02:11 PM
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^With enough work it can fit, but I think a lot of people are interested in bolt on fitments which that's not really what I would consider as a bolt on fitment. For the sake of liability in addition to the ease of installation, most vendors won't recommend those setups because it could always come back to bite them in the butt. I think you'd be surprised though if you looked at the parking lot of a lot of vendors.

Your car has very impressive fitment, I must say. Just goes to show that if you know what you're doing you can make a lot of things work!
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Well my car is one of the car in the parking lot of vendors lol

I'm not saying they don't know what they're doing, but they won't do what I just did where they explain how it COULD fit. Rather they usually recommend something that will fit without issue and just say those specs are impossible on that car. Then they guy buys his 9.5 +30 wheels or whatever comes onto this forum and sees some of the aggressive sedans running specs far beyond what the vendor said couldn't fit the car, which then makes the vendor look bad even though they were really just using the safe bet and trying to protect the customers sanity lol
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Ran 19x11 +15 245/35 with a 25mm pull and ran -4.5 camber roughly. So it can be done
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:36 AM
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That's a huge pull...side shot of that pull?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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That's a huge pull...side shot of that pull?
I have a thread up in the sedan section
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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It's not far off my pull. BUT like I said you need a fender work beast to get a car to that point.

IIRC, Grant did Jeremie's pull.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 4DGS
Well my car is one of the car in the parking lot of vendors lol

I'm not saying they don't know what they're doing, but they won't do what I just did where they explain how it COULD fit. Rather they usually recommend something that will fit without issue and just say those specs are impossible on that car. Then they guy buys his 9.5 +30 wheels or whatever comes onto this forum and sees some of the aggressive sedans running specs far beyond what the vendor said couldn't fit the car, which then makes the vendor look bad even though they were really just using the safe bet and trying to protect the customers sanity lol
Mine too.

Honestly it comes down to liability. You have to think that some of the vendors on here also work with other cars where the owners aren't as willing to take those necessary steps to make it fit. Like for instance, we work a lot with Audi, VW, BMW, etc. and if the owners are uninformed and we tell them it could fit and they're not happy with the results, it could result in legal action taken by the customers. Rolling/pulling fenders, running spacers, running camber, and stretching tires are all really common in the import world but in other scenes people don't know much about that stuff and/or are not willing to do it. Better for the vendors to stay safe in those instances, especially if they have not tested it themselves at their facility.

I think that true enthusiasts kind of frown upon vendors saying these things but there are always two sides to it. It makes sense from a business aspect, and we know what may or may not be possible depending on the work being put in.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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Oh I know from the legal side and protecting your neck, but why say not possible instead say "yea.... but do you know what needs to be done to fit that?" As I started off my explanation I said "you're in for a bit of work" if that scares him off so be it, if he reads and thinks he/she can pull that off then awesome. Another outside the box modified car.

I've worked mostly in custom shop environment where this phone call usually ends in "when can you get them?" But, as you said, a wheel retailer selling their wheels to a consumer without the aid of the "custom shop" to make them fit makes it a little iffy.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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For the most part that's how I approach the topic because I've done quite a bit of work myself as well, unless people are asking for completely unrealistic about what they'd like. You'd be surprised how many people see things online, call us up, and want to replicate the results without doing anything to the car haha.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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OP was stating if he rolled his fenders if it would be possible, that's why I said it's not possible. But obviously with enough money/extra work/modifications you can make ANYTHING work just like 4GDS showed us. I think I may have glanced over his question too quickly.

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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 02:40 PM
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4DGS---
I m looking at the 3rd pic above, the 19x11+20 , is that all the way around or just rear? Do u know what camber is set at & what tire sizes are being used?
 
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