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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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Dealer Brembo or Aftermarket Brembo?

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I bought my G thinking that the Brembo kit from the dealer was gonna be a rip off when I could just get it aftermarket for cheaper. Now Im considering picking it up but I noticed that the dealers does front and rear right? Can I get that done aftermarket as well and will it be the same thing? What the prices on the dealers Brembo kit versus aftermarket? Sorry guys you can see I dont know too much about brake kits. Thanks
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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Don't do at dealers period... They do charge way more ... I asked them and they want more than 4k with installation and everything.. I think you can get like stoptech ones for 3700 and.. install fee would be around 300 i guess??
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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Dealers will be big bucks to install the brakes.

You can order front & rear as a package, just fronts, or just rears. It's really up to you. Since the fronts do the lions' share of the work you want to put your money in those.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GZire
Dealers will be big bucks to install the brakes.

You can order front & rear as a package, just fronts, or just rears. It's really up to you. Since the fronts do the lions' share of the work you want to put your money in those.
I disagree with this statement. While it's true that the fronts do the lion's share of the work, just putting the bigger Brembo front brakes on will throw off the brake bias and will actually lengthen stopping distances, not shorten them. The rears do still play a role in braking, and it's the overall system that's critical, not just the fronts. Here's a quote from Stoptech explaining the imporance of brake bias:

"The most dramatic front-bias impacts are usually brought about by “big brake kits” which are not properly matched to the intended vehicle. Any time that a bigger front rotor is installed, there is a simultaneous need to decrease the effective clamping force of the caliper (installing smaller pistons is the easiest method) to offset the increased torque created by larger rotor effective radius. The objective is to maintain a constant amount of brake corner output (torque) for a given brake line pressure as Figure 6 illustrates. Unfortunately, too many upgrades do not take this factor into account, and those poor cars end up with both bigger rotors and larger pistons which serve to drastically shift the bias even more forward. While rock-solid stable under braking, stopping distances will go up dramatically."

Here's the rest of the article:
http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/...erformance.htm
 
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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I disagree with this statement. While it's true that the fronts do the lion's share of the work, just putting the bigger Brembo front brakes on will throw off the brake bias and will actually lengthen stopping distances, not shorten them. The rears do still play a role in braking, and it's the overall system that's critical, not just the fronts. Here's a quote from Stoptech explaining the imporance of brake bias:

"The most dramatic front-bias impacts are usually brought about by “big brake kits” which are not properly matched to the intended vehicle. Any time that a bigger front rotor is installed, there is a simultaneous need to decrease the effective clamping force of the caliper (installing smaller pistons is the easiest method) to offset the increased torque created by larger rotor effective radius. The objective is to maintain a constant amount of brake corner output (torque) for a given brake line pressure as Figure 6 illustrates. Unfortunately, too many upgrades do not take this factor into account, and those poor cars end up with both bigger rotors and larger pistons which serve to drastically shift the bias even more forward. While rock-solid stable under braking, stopping distances will go up dramatically."

Here's the rest of the article:
http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/...erformance.htm
Agreed for the most part sherwooa. I should have made it more clear that my point was more, if you only have money to spend on one, go for the fronts.

However, this isn't necessarily the case with the Stoptechs. I've read posts from Performance Nissan on MY350Z.com where their suggestion for track usage is for front brake replacement only (for the 350Z). My understanding of these was that the benefits on the track did not necessarily justify dropping the money for the rear kit.

One more thing you must consider when buying the brake kits is size. My example above really is for a brake kit where you are not messing with the overall size of the rotors too much. For example if you go to a 13" rotor you can go with just the fronts, however if you go from a rotor less than 13" to a 14" big brake kit, then you will run into issues that sherwooa is talking about.
 

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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Makes sense GZire. Actually, Stoptech is great because even when you just go with the bigger front kit of theirs, they size down the caliper pistons so as to maintain the OEM brake bias. That's why I like them so much!
 
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 12:35 AM
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I agree sherwooa.....good product and they have a host of information that they are willing to share. If I ever have problems with my (stock) Brembos I'm going for the Stoptechs.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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you guys are awesome! now any idea what the prices are on the stop techs just front versus front and rear? seems like its a better brand to go with then brembos from all the responses ive heard on this post and others... oh last issue, i have 20s on the car now, will that effect the size rotors i can fit? thanks guys!
 
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