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The Cusco arms have only five settings. Three are negative camber, one is nuetral and the fifth is postive. That means only one setting can correct negative camber.Originally Posted by g35thanh
so is cusco a better camber arm to go with?
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Two things that bugged me about these arms:
1. A bit hard to adjust. Some alignment places won't touch these to put your camber back in spec. They'll fix your toe and caster, but won't bother with the camber.
2. Noise. Lubrication helps, but doesn't take care of all the noise. And sometimes you have to re-lube.
These arms are good for the price they are being sold at.
Just my opinion, but squeaking noises shouldn't be coming out of my ~$40000 dollar ride. I swapped these out for 350evo arms. No noise and easy adjustability, plus they look beautiful (but you don't see them anyway, lol).
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The Kinetix Arms do the job of fixing your camber well. From a performance standpoint, these are fine. During hard driving, I had no complaints.Two things that bugged me about these arms:
1. A bit hard to adjust. Some alignment places won't touch these to put your camber back in spec. They'll fix your toe and caster, but won't bother with the camber.
2. Noise. Lubrication helps, but doesn't take care of all the noise. And sometimes you have to re-lube.
These arms are good for the price they are being sold at.
Just my opinion, but squeaking noises shouldn't be coming out of my ~$40000 dollar ride. I swapped these out for 350evo arms. No noise and easy adjustability, plus they look beautiful (but you don't see them anyway, lol).
yeah, how do you adjust the camber on these arms? Do you have to actually remove them to adjust it or can you adjust them while everything is installed?
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You might get your camber back in spec with the 350evo's, but they were not engineered for resolving camber issues, they were moreso engineered for looks.
I've posted in a few threads about them that you have read, so I am not going to repeat myself, but there is absolutely no reason to spend $1000.00 on 350evo arms when you can get the same product with more adjustability for 1/3 the price.
Anyone who is trying make a viable case against kinetix on the sheer looks of the product are idiots, take advice from people who own the products and use them daily. I wish I would have bought the 350evo pieces so that the one dirty mechanic that ever saw them would have been more impressed with the "looks." hahaha.
I've posted in a few threads about them that you have read, so I am not going to repeat myself, but there is absolutely no reason to spend $1000.00 on 350evo arms when you can get the same product with more adjustability for 1/3 the price.
Anyone who is trying make a viable case against kinetix on the sheer looks of the product are idiots, take advice from people who own the products and use them daily. I wish I would have bought the 350evo pieces so that the one dirty mechanic that ever saw them would have been more impressed with the "looks." hahaha.
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I've posted in a few threads about them that you have read, so I am not going to repeat myself, but there is absolutely no reason to spend $1000.00 on 350evo arms when you can get the same product with more adjustability for 1/3 the price.
Anyone who is trying make a viable case against kinetix on the sheer looks of the product are idiots, take advice from people who own the products and use them daily. I wish I would have bought the 350evo pieces so that the one dirty mechanic that ever saw them would have been more impressed with the "looks." hahaha.
did you ever get that rubbing issues resolved? what was it?Originally Posted by turbomaxima
You might get your camber back in spec with the 350evo's, but they were not engineered for resolving camber issues, they were moreso engineered for looks.I've posted in a few threads about them that you have read, so I am not going to repeat myself, but there is absolutely no reason to spend $1000.00 on 350evo arms when you can get the same product with more adjustability for 1/3 the price.
Anyone who is trying make a viable case against kinetix on the sheer looks of the product are idiots, take advice from people who own the products and use them daily. I wish I would have bought the 350evo pieces so that the one dirty mechanic that ever saw them would have been more impressed with the "looks." hahaha.
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I've posted in a few threads about them that you have read, so I am not going to repeat myself, but there is absolutely no reason to spend $1000.00 on 350evo arms when you can get the same product with more adjustability for 1/3 the price.
Anyone who is trying make a viable case against kinetix on the sheer looks of the product are idiots, take advice from people who own the products and use them daily. I wish I would have bought the 350evo pieces so that the one dirty mechanic that ever saw them would have been more impressed with the "looks." hahaha.
Where are you getting your information from about the 350EVO arms? Have you even talked to any of the guys over at 350EVO? $1000.00??? Last I checked they were priced at $850. While I agree they are a bit pricey, I would also suggest that the Kinetix a-arms are just as pricey when you factor in build quality. It's all relevant. I bought (and immediately sold) the Kinetix a-arms due to there poor build quality. I refused to install any component on my G that was so shabbily slapped together. The Kinetix a-arms have had fitment/clearance issues and noise issues, that is fact. The 350EVO have had no issues and they are made of superior materials and engineered far better. They were not engineered just "for looks", that's ridiculous. BTW, just because someone has an opinion that differes from yours doesn't make them an idiot.Originally Posted by turbomaxima
You might get your camber back in spec with the 350evo's, but they were not engineered for resolving camber issues, they were moreso engineered for looks.I've posted in a few threads about them that you have read, so I am not going to repeat myself, but there is absolutely no reason to spend $1000.00 on 350evo arms when you can get the same product with more adjustability for 1/3 the price.
Anyone who is trying make a viable case against kinetix on the sheer looks of the product are idiots, take advice from people who own the products and use them daily. I wish I would have bought the 350evo pieces so that the one dirty mechanic that ever saw them would have been more impressed with the "looks." hahaha.
Here is what BJ at 350EVO said about their a-arms:
Our arms are designed to fit the contour of the pocket that the front arms
fit into under compression. If the arms allow for too much
adjustment.....they will bottom out on the underside of the chassis and
wont allow for full suspension movement under compression.
Our ball joint design allows for the most + camber gain while still allowing
full suspension movement.
They are of the highest quality control arms on the market and are the same
exact arms we race with on our Grand AM Cup cars.
Most all other arms on the market are welded steel tubes with added braces
for strength.
We went through many similar designs when we first started racing and in the
end only a machined arm has been the proven piece.
The arms and slider plate is CNC'd from a solid chunk of Al..
The spherical bearings are high quality and are press fitments.
There are no noise issues.
The ease of adjustment is second to none and so is the quality.
We have strived to make all our 350EVO parts to be the best available.
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I have in fact talked to some people about the 350evo arms before I bought Kinetix (on 350zforums). There were many people that explained to me that if you lower you car past a certain point (i believe it was over 1 1/2"), the 350evo arms will not able to bring the car back into spec. My car is lowered over 3" so there was no way I was even going to think about wasting the money. I will not argue that more R&D was put into the 350evo arms and they look as though they provide great adjustment, but at the end of the day they are not engineered to be used on cars with a considerable drop.
That being said, why did you buy a product and not know what it looked like in the pictures? That's not odd. When someone is a degree or more out of spec with camber in the front they would simply be throwing $850-1000.00 down the drain on the 350evo arms.
Lastly, I did have noise and what I thought was rubbing issues, but it seems it was just the urethane bushings wearing themselves in. I am not going to say that is an easily forgivable error in design, however, it goes away fairly quickly and is barely noticeable. You don't have to overdo a product to make it function; look at the crappy design of the stock a-arms, it's sad that on a $40,000.00 that's all you get.
I'm not trying to argue with you, just trying to make sure people don't waste their money on 350evo a-arms expecting to get their camber issues fixed.
That being said, why did you buy a product and not know what it looked like in the pictures? That's not odd. When someone is a degree or more out of spec with camber in the front they would simply be throwing $850-1000.00 down the drain on the 350evo arms.
Lastly, I did have noise and what I thought was rubbing issues, but it seems it was just the urethane bushings wearing themselves in. I am not going to say that is an easily forgivable error in design, however, it goes away fairly quickly and is barely noticeable. You don't have to overdo a product to make it function; look at the crappy design of the stock a-arms, it's sad that on a $40,000.00 that's all you get.
I'm not trying to argue with you, just trying to make sure people don't waste their money on 350evo a-arms expecting to get their camber issues fixed.
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The A-arms pictured on the Kinetix website look much better than what they sent me. The A-arms I received had a flat gray coating and were much shabbier then what was pictured on the website. The a-arms pictured on the website appear to be stainless steel and the metal work is much more refined. That is yet another reason I cannot recommend Kinetix. Simply put, I was a very dissatisfied customer. Originally Posted by turbomaxima
That being said, why did you buy a product and not know what it looked like in the pictures?

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Two weeks since I installed my Kinetix A-arms. I had the mechanic used this lube: Cobra
This stuff is suppose to be water proof and lasts a long time. I did get some squeaking noised for the first week, but like the mechanic said, it was the polyurethane bushings wearing in. The noise has almost disappeared and I am one happy customer. Polyurethane will squeak, but offers greater performance than the soft OEM bushings. That's the nature of the beast. Even the polyurethane used on sway bars will squeak if you don't lube them.There were NO fitment issues whatsoever. Any person that installs these arms without any lube is asking for trouble. Yes, the might have to be re-lubed, but not that often. My car's alignment is perfect and with the D-specs, the car drive amazing! The only issue I've heard with the Kinetix was the noise and those guys did not use lube. I saw one post of a guy that took off his Kinetix and installed 350evo arms. He had pics of his Kinetix and they were dry as $%#@. He complained about noise, but didn't bother lubing the bushings. His solution was to buy a $800 pair of arms. I guess some people have more money for mods than others. As shabby as they look, I've never heard of anyone breaking a weld on the Kinetix. I belong to 6 forums and I believe I would've heard about that. Like I said before, they're not pretty, but they're very effective.
This stuff is suppose to be water proof and lasts a long time. I did get some squeaking noised for the first week, but like the mechanic said, it was the polyurethane bushings wearing in. The noise has almost disappeared and I am one happy customer. Polyurethane will squeak, but offers greater performance than the soft OEM bushings. That's the nature of the beast. Even the polyurethane used on sway bars will squeak if you don't lube them.There were NO fitment issues whatsoever. Any person that installs these arms without any lube is asking for trouble. Yes, the might have to be re-lubed, but not that often. My car's alignment is perfect and with the D-specs, the car drive amazing! The only issue I've heard with the Kinetix was the noise and those guys did not use lube. I saw one post of a guy that took off his Kinetix and installed 350evo arms. He had pics of his Kinetix and they were dry as $%#@. He complained about noise, but didn't bother lubing the bushings. His solution was to buy a $800 pair of arms. I guess some people have more money for mods than others. As shabby as they look, I've never heard of anyone breaking a weld on the Kinetix. I belong to 6 forums and I believe I would've heard about that. Like I said before, they're not pretty, but they're very effective.
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This stuff is suppose to be water proof and lasts a long time. I did get some squeaking noised for the first week, but like the mechanic said, it was the polyurethane bushings wearing in. The noise has almost disappeared and I am one happy customer. Polyurethane will squeak, but offers greater performance than the soft OEM bushings. That's the nature of the beast. Even the polyurethane used on sway bars will squeak if you don't lube them.There were NO fitment issues whatsoever. Any person that installs these arms without any lube is asking for trouble. Yes, the might have to be re-lubed, but not that often. My car's alignment is perfect and with the D-specs, the car drive amazing! The only issue I've heard with the Kinetix was the noise and those guys did not use lube. I saw one post of a guy that took off his Kinetix and installed 350evo arms. He had pics of his Kinetix and they were dry as $%#@. He complained about noise, but didn't bother lubing the bushings. His solution was to buy a $800 pair of arms. I guess some people have more money for mods than others. As shabby as they look, I've never heard of anyone breaking a weld on the Kinetix. I belong to 6 forums and I believe I would've heard about that. Like I said before, they're not pretty, but they're very effective.
agree.. but I had fitment problems but fix nowOriginally Posted by Deang35c6
Two weeks since I installed my Kinetix A-arms. I had the mechanic used this lube: CobraThis stuff is suppose to be water proof and lasts a long time. I did get some squeaking noised for the first week, but like the mechanic said, it was the polyurethane bushings wearing in. The noise has almost disappeared and I am one happy customer. Polyurethane will squeak, but offers greater performance than the soft OEM bushings. That's the nature of the beast. Even the polyurethane used on sway bars will squeak if you don't lube them.There were NO fitment issues whatsoever. Any person that installs these arms without any lube is asking for trouble. Yes, the might have to be re-lubed, but not that often. My car's alignment is perfect and with the D-specs, the car drive amazing! The only issue I've heard with the Kinetix was the noise and those guys did not use lube. I saw one post of a guy that took off his Kinetix and installed 350evo arms. He had pics of his Kinetix and they were dry as $%#@. He complained about noise, but didn't bother lubing the bushings. His solution was to buy a $800 pair of arms. I guess some people have more money for mods than others. As shabby as they look, I've never heard of anyone breaking a weld on the Kinetix. I belong to 6 forums and I believe I would've heard about that. Like I said before, they're not pretty, but they're very effective.
the noise gone away lube and settle in
thats insane to spent 850.00 plus for front arms
why are does front arms so much...