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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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shocks and spring on sedan

I have a G35 sedan with the coupe 18" rims, what shocks or spring should i use it , i dont want to drop it too low. 1 or 1.25" . Can anyone give me some opinion?
 
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sdusniper
I have a G35 sedan with the coupe 18" rims, what shocks or spring should i use it , i dont want to drop it too low. 1 or 1.25" . Can anyone give me some opinion?

For the drop amount that you want, I'd go with oem 350Z springs and Tokico D-spec shocks. You'll get a 1" drop and the ability to adjust the ride quality with the double adjustable shocks. Ride quality can be set to copy the oem ride or set to be a lot firmer, your choice.

Another choice would be Tein H-techs ment for the 350Z, drop will be a little more then what your asking for however, 1.4/1.3 (I have the springs, but I altered the drop amount to be 1.4/1,0). Add on the same shocks, Tokico D-specs. Vs the oem Z springs, you will gain a little more spring stiffness.

If you wanted a like stock ride quality and were ok with going beyond your desired drop amont in the front. Tein H-tech's for the sedan would drop you 1.4/,7". It is however, not a setup to increase performance.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 01:56 AM
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When i did the suspension on my 04 sedan I was advised that Htexhs did not have a very good front to rear balance. I went with 04 350Z springs and the car rocks ! Lowered 1" in front and 1/2" in back but is readily apparent that the car is lowered.

AND... I have a spare set for sale !!! PM or email me for info if you're interested.

Dan
 
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by alfapwr
When i did the suspension on my 04 sedan I was advised that Htexhs did not have a very good front to rear balance. I went with 04 350Z springs and the car rocks ! Lowered 1" in front and 1/2" in back but is readily apparent that the car is lowered.

AND... I have a spare set for sale !!! PM or email me for info if you're interested.

Dan
Out of curiosity what shocks are you using with the Z springs?
 
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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I just dropped my 03.5 6MT Sedan this weekend with an 05 350z suspension. My fronts dropped 1" and my rears dropped .5" just like alfapwr's. I don't know if it will change with settling, but right now I like the ride alot! It's noticably firmer, but not harsh. It definitely has less lean when cornering, and has less tendancy to slip the back wheels on turns.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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hey ricmalaz...do you have any pics of your new set up? I'm curious to see your car how it sits on 1" and 0.5" lower.

Thanks.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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hey ricmalaz...do you have any pics of your new set up? I'm curious to see your car how it sits on 1" and 0.5" lower.

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Sure do.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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very nice bro...it looks nice and clean. I am getting mine done on Thursday with the Eibach Pro Kit. Check out my ride.

https://g35driver.com/forums/wheels-tires/51933-got-20-s-pics.html
 
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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I've been thinking of similar setup for my sedan, too.

However, I would like to try OEM Z springs w/ coupe struts and OEM coupe springs w/ coupe shocks.

I think this setup will give me 1inch drop in front and 0.5 inch drop in rear.

(I happend to have both OEM Z and coupe springs and OEM Z shocks/struts. a long story how i got them)

What do you think the end results of this setup?

BTW, my understanding is that all OEM Z springs w/ couple shocks and struts set us will give you uniform 1" drop at all four corners based on my research; however, that seems not the case above
 
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl_Skyline
I've been thinking of similar setup for my sedan, too.

However, I would like to try OEM Z springs w/ coupe struts and OEM coupe springs w/ coupe shocks.

I think this setup will give me 1inch drop in front and 0.5 inch drop in rear.

(I happend to have both OEM Z and coupe springs and OEM Z shocks/struts. a long story how i got them)

What do you think the end results of this setup?

BTW, my understanding is that all OEM Z springs w/ couple shocks and struts set us will give you uniform 1" drop at all four corners based on my research; however, that seems not the case above
I helped a sedan owner install oem coupe springs on his car with Tokico D-specs. One of the things I did was take before and after ride height measurement's. They dropped the car .5"/.5". When I dropped my sedan on oem 350Z springs I got a measured 1"/1" drop, the two springs do not drop the sedan the same amounts, just to clear that up.

Oem coupe shocks and springs will ride and drive very much like oem sedan sport suspension shocks and springs. The coupe setup that will deliver a marked change in ride and drive feel and performance would be the new 2005 coupe sport suspension.

Oem 350Z shocks are valved a whole lot stiffer then oem coupe shocks are and the car will feel a lot more aggressive. However, if they are unrevised 03/04 shocks, they will display the same bad behavior that they've alway's shown on the 350Z. Nissan revised the Z shocks part way into 2004 production to help fix ride quality. If you post the shock part numbers I can tell you if you have revised Z shocks or not.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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thank you for your detailed feedback on this issue, Gsdean.

Although some people say OEM Z springs on G35 sedan would give 1" drop in front and 0.5" drop in rear, since you seem to be the rear "expert" in G suspension setup, I give more credibility to your finding of equal 1" drop in both front and rear.

Same thing goes for OEM Coupe springs on G35 sedan. It would give me uniform 0.5" drop in both front and rear according to your finding.

With the above assumption, installing Z springs (2003 i believe) in front and Coupe springs in the back would give me 1" drop in front and 0.5" drop in rear, which would make my sedan "lean forward" or "sprint forward" in a way. And both front and rear would have the same COUPE struts and shocks since I Do Not have Z struts and shocks.

I also prefer this rather "unusual" setup since I think the rear camber is more "sensitive" to drops than the front (due to shorther A arms, maybe?), which would prevent any uneven tire wear after proper alignment.

Now here comes the question for you, Gsedan:

1. Do you think the end results (i.e. ride feel, handling) of this "unusual" setup would be the same as having "all" Coupe springs/shocks/struts setup on a non-sport 5AT sedan?

I remember you saying that all of the following springs have the SAME spring rate:

Sport Sedan, Coupe, and Z

2. My car will be used for family transportation for my wife and 2 year old baby. Do you think the ride would be "too harsh" for them with this "unusual" setup?

I have been researching for several months for upgrading my non-sport G sedan and still cannot make any clear decision on this.

If you can help me with this, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!!
 
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Pearl_Skyline
thank you for your detailed feedback on this issue, Gsdean.

Although some people say OEM Z springs on G35 sedan would give 1" drop in front and 0.5" drop in rear, since you seem to be the rear "expert" in G suspension setup, I give more credibility to your finding of equal 1" drop in both front and rear.

Same thing goes for OEM Coupe springs on G35 sedan. It would give me uniform 0.5" drop in both front and rear according to your finding.

With the above assumption, installing Z springs (2003 i believe) in front and Coupe springs in the back would give me 1" drop in front and 0.5" drop in rear, which would make my sedan "lean forward" or "sprint forward" in a way. And both front and rear would have the same COUPE struts and shocks since I Do Not have Z struts and shocks.

I also prefer this rather "unusual" setup since I think the rear camber is more "sensitive" to drops than the front (due to shorther A arms, maybe?), which would prevent any uneven tire wear after proper alignment.

Now here comes the question for you, Gsedan:

1. Do you think the end results (i.e. ride feel, handling) of this "unusual" setup would be the same as having "all" Coupe springs/shocks/struts setup on a non-sport 5AT sedan?

I remember you saying that all of the following springs have the SAME spring rate:

Sport Sedan, Coupe, and Z

2. My car will be used for family transportation for my wife and 2 year old baby. Do you think the ride would be "too harsh" for them with this "unusual" setup?

I have been researching for several months for upgrading my non-sport G sedan and still cannot make any clear decision on this.

If you can help me with this, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks!!
i was kinda in the same situation like you, here's my input........i'm on the coupe sport springs and the drop is very, very subtle, .5 front and back like discussed here.......the ride quality wasn't much different from the sedan springs.........if you're not into the slammed look or not having to get a-arms for the front, the coupe springs might do it for you.........i have small children as well and it all workded out great.......hope that helps.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Pearl...
I you see some of my recent posts...
The Z drop c/w D-Specs is an amazing setup for reasonable cost.

I got 1" drop all arround
handling & ride are better than stock (you can dial in the firmness you want)
 
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Re: My 2004 sedan w/ sport susp..I am still in research mode, I would appreciate any input.
My wants:
1) Maintain ride quality (not stiffer)
2) Improve the cornering. (I was going to just add the 350Evo rear sway, adjusted meduim, with added collars to start and stop there). but...
3) I like the look of a drop ~ 1", yet feel apprehensive due to some horror stories that I have read about alignment and camber issues.
4) Will probably put on 2004 18" or 2005 19" coupe wheels.
Q's:
- Is .5" really worth it?
Will the 1." drop require arms, camber kits, and or more work?
Please advise
 
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Old Apr 29, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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I'm in the same boat with many of you as well. I have a 2005 G35 sedan (non sport package). I am looking for a suspension set for a 1" front and .5" - .7" rear lowering and improved performance.

For me, I already have 100lb+ of stereo equipment in the trunk, so the car is level and the front being lowered a little more wouldn't bother me at all.

I'm looking at running 20" with 35 series soon, but want the suspension dialed in ASAP (I like to have a plan - hehe).

So what I'm hearing, is run the 2005 350Z springs for the 1" and .5" lowering, then either run 350Z shocks or the tociko D shocks for adjustability.

As long as the finished product is that lowering height and a slightly stiffer ride, I'm fine. Sway bars will fix the rest...

Thanks

Joe
 
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